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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

this is interesting...

http://www.waleapparatus.com/details/11_2365.asp

ACE (Amethyst Contrast Enhancer) glass can be used to "optimize the readability" of television displays under high ambient light conditions.

The banner sensors were susceptible to malfunction due to ambient light.
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

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While wearing Amethyst colored glasses...
What if the actual drivers station wall was purple...?

...if there are certain objects on the playing field that were purple, they would then be difficult to see.

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...look closely...
hmm... very interesting indeed.
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

Amethyst is used to prevent infared light from being emitted to IR and that will jave something to do with it the whole other part is prolly the same as everyone else has said with the hexagonal field but i think maybe IR signal jamming and things in that nature might play in just my 2 cents.
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

btw, something is weird, correct english would be Pi, you, and I


right??
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

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btw, something is weird, correct english would be Pi, you, and I right??
This has already been discussed in this thread, FYI.

No - as long as a verb does not follow "Pi, you and me" it is correct. For example:

Pi, you and I went to the store. This is correct because you could break it into "Pi went to the store, you went to the store, and I went to the store." One wouldn't say, "me went to the store."

You will see something between Pi, You and Me. Using the same logic, you should be able to break this down into, "You will see something between Pi and You, Pi and Me, and You and Me."

There has been discussion about whether "Pi" is the first entity, "You" is the second, and "Me" is the third ... or whether "Pi" is the first, and "You and Me" is the second ... one would think if they were three seperate entities, it would correctly read:

"... something between Pi, you, and myself."

Of course, someone pointed out that "see" and "me" rhyme - but you would think if they were going for a rhyming scheme, the riddle would have been broken down like a rhyme ...

"Look closely and you will see,
Something between Pi, You and Me."

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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

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is there another george burns? other then baseball?
There was a George Burns who was a famous comedian (with Gracie Allan) who lived to be about 110.
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

If one were to don amethyst colored glasses, would one be able to see IR beams?

Also, when scoring baseball, first base is position number three.

My thoughts.
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

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If one were to don amethyst colored glasses, would one be able to see IR beams?

Also, when scoring baseball, first base is position number three.

My thoughts.
No, not a chance. Our eyes can't see in the IR range, and adding filters wouldn't help matters.
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

this is going to be a looooooooooooooooooooooooong nine days... I can't wait to find out the game... I hope the human player is as much as involved as it was last year...
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

I do believe:

1) We'll definitely have IR beacons, very possibly moving this year.

2) Auto mode will exist, and be very important.

3) There will be an end of round ritual to perform, or position to be in for more points.

4) The number of teams/regional and the total regional time is similar to last year. Therefore, the time/round probably CAN'T increase, unless they increase the number of robots "processed" per round, or reduce total rounds played per team, which would cause complaints (especially considering the cost increase).

5) Similarly, they can't REDUCE the number of robots processed per round from four, without potentially causing timing problems. SO... I predict we'll still see alliances of some kind. If the "four is not enough" clue is valid, I assume this hint implies we'll probably have SIX robots on the field, in either a 3 vs 3 situation on a nice simple rectangular field, or 2 vs 2 vs 2 on a hexagonal field.

6) Note that one variable that is NOT constrained and MAY change is the ratio of Auto to Manual time! THAT could be interesting!

7) Could the "Pi between you and me" have something to do with the HP's role??? How about the HP wearing funny glasses and ADVISING the drivers about the location of an IR beacon that is not visible to them???

8) A hexagonal field is possible with decent viewing. Viewing isn't a problem if the third team is directly opposite the viewing side.

9) In addition to hinting at the number three, *I* interpret all of the triple play references could POSSIBLY mean that some ritual involving dashing between locations may be involved.

10) The LED Robot Active Blinkers issued last year are simply Blue and Red LED drivers, with ONLY two signal lines. If you drive BOTH at the same time, you generate a crude "purple". Therefore, there MAY be a three single or alliance situation given the 2004 IFI hardware, but no more than that. All may change though if they issue a new RAB, revert to the Gumball, or change the Robot Controller, but I can't imagine IFI would redesign the RC again so soon if they didn't have to, and though the RABs were not very noticeable, I'm guessing they'll use it again as people complained about the gumballs a lot. If *I* were at IFI, I'd want to milk the 2004 RC for at least a few more years to recover the R&D costs on it!

11) Carpeting comes in 12 foot wide rolls. Therefore, the EASIEST field dimensions to implement (without trimming) is a rectangular one, with width roughly equal to 12*N, by any length. 24' x N' across has held true for the last several seasons. If a hexagonal field IS used, I predict the size will be a multiple of 12' across between opposite flat sides.

Bottom line prediction:

Given the current IFI and field hardware, I guess the SIMPLEST interpretation is a 3 vs 3 alliance game, on a standard 24' (or 36'?) wide rectangular field, or a hex as spec'd in (11). Auto Mode will be important, moving IR beacons may be there, something weird or missing will be the center of the field, running BETWEEN places will be required, and some kind of ritual or position must be performed at the end for more points, as before.

BTW... What HASN'T happened yet but IMHO would be COOL, would be to have an alliance with one or more of the robots predesignated as having to do something DIFFERENT than the other(s) so that handoffs, etc. between robots may be REQUIRED. Designating who does what tasks may be done by the alliances. If an alliance robot fails, one robot may do more tasks.

However, I see nothing other than the fact that John and George were "unusual" to hint at distinct tasking this year. <darn>

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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

Has anyone noticed that it should be "Pi, you and I"?
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Has anyone noticed that it should be "Pi, you and I"?
More evidence that the PYraMid acronym is deliberate!
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Re: Official 2005 Clue Thread

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Has anyone noticed that it should be "Pi, you and I"?
I think its to keep the rhyme scheme:

Look closely and you will see
Something between Pi, You and Me."

'See' and 'me' rhyme.

I dont know if it has anything to do with the game clue however.
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My grammar skills aren't that great but shouldn't it be "Pi you and me"??? And something tells me purple, go with purple, go with Hendrix. Something there, something in Purple Haze, and baseball. I don't know why, I love the Beatles I have original copies of the Srg. Pepper's Lonely Heart Band and so many others, but something just doesn't "click" with it to me. I feel that baseball, and Mike Menosky has something to do with it, he went to Indiana University of Pennsylvania, and from tracking the .314 SLG he was the only one of the 4 baseball players that I mentioned that went to college... I don't know but it seems as if baseball plays a more important role than most of us here are thinking.
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