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Unread 18-02-2005, 22:24
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Re: Do you get blamed for every thing one your team!!!

In my experience, I have seen blame-shifts on 1293 very rarely, if ever.

However, the moment any loud crashing noise is heard, three words can often be heard...

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Unread 18-02-2005, 22:57
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Re: Do you get blamed for every thing one your team!!!

Mistakes can always be made while participating in robotics, and there is no way to change that.

The reason you are on a robotics team is to learn. No one is perfect and you are better off realizing that you have made the mistake, than shifting the blame to someone else. The more mistakes you make or hear about being made, the more you learn. Many are quick to blame a newbie for a problem; this is only hurting the persons enjoyment in FIRST and can be extremely counter productive.

I have to admit that I get blamed for a lot that goes wrong at competitions…. and I have learned to accept that. I would rather move on and correct the fault than stand around and fight about an insignificant problem.

Mistakes are never made by one person alone and many people forget that. You need to work on a system to prevent mistakes from happening, making a better and safer work environment.

So you made a mistake….. You live and you learn.
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Unread 18-02-2005, 23:10
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Re: Do you get blamed for every thing one your team!!!

I am a third year member of MOE and I still make mistakes every meeting, I would like to accept the blame but I usually try to run and hide so someone else catches the heat. Joking I don't do that.


Like many others in this thread have said so far is everyone makes mistakes and they should get the blame due to them, some people make more mistakes then others but they are not just mistakes they are learning experiences.
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Re: Do you get blamed for every thing one your team!!!

Alright lets face it...

I understand that rookies aren't on the same level as veterans on the team. But the rookies come up with amazing stuff (I have seen it happening), they amaze me at times. Yes, at times we do yell at them (fine most of the time), but at the same time, we do respect what they had to say as we would respect any other member on the team. If they are wrong, us veterans always try to show them the right path.

Rookies... dont feel bad. Its learning time. This is the best experience you will ever get. When a veteran on the team let you down, dont give up, because you are the future of the team. If you have questions about anything, ask your veteran members on the team or the mentors, they will help you out.

the whole "yeling at freshmen" has been a tradition, it doesnt mean that we hate freshmen.

... enough said

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yes newbies learn but over the time perod i have been blamed on alot of things not all but a few like today i herd this quote milloions of times " Blame it on The Goober!!!"
not a lie!!!
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Re: Do you get blamed for every thing one your team!!!

Mistakes are all part of learning .. everyone makes them .. whether it is your first year on the team or your fourth year on the team .. like my mentor said the other day "hindsight is always 20/20" and that works for both mentors, freshmen, and seniors.

I'm a senior and I make loads of mistakes but at the same time I also learn from those mistakes and the younger ones on the team know not to do what I did .. so while I learn from my own mistakes, so do others. Sure freshmen make more mistakes than others, but the biggest mistake a senior can make is not teaching a freshman what they did wrong. If you don't do that then they will never learn and next year when you are gone they will do the same thing.

The important thing to remember is that you are a team and in the end it is no single person's fault.
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Re: Do you get blamed for every thing one your team!!!

we don't really blame the newbies-- we used to blame on guy for everything it was always seth did it, seth's fault--he has graduated in 04 but those of us that knew him still at time say it's seth's fault and we also say it's gilligan's fault just because..always someone to blame for the sillest things basically
-not being mean of course just having fun especially when it's late and you have been working all day long
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Unread 22-02-2005, 15:48
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Re: Do you get blamed for every thing one your team!!!

we just blame it on zahid. who i havent seen for a while since he graduated last year. doesnt matter if he's touched or even seen the robot or not. its his fault. no argueing,
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Re: Do you get blamed for every thing one your team!!!

I don't really do actual mechanical work because I am an absolute klutz but out of the 7 programmers, the 2 seniors quit, 1 junior never comes and one has never programmed before and the rest of us are rookies. Only one of us actually had background in C so really all of us were programming rookies. Fortunately for us, since the mechanical teams had a small problem getting the arm and drive train built, most of the problems were based on electronics; we just found them. This made debugging horrible because we would fix our problem and they would spend 1- 2 hours fixing theirs. So, on my team, instead of blame it on the rookies it's blame it on electronics.
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im teh president so i blame everyone else but mostly our newest freshman
chris dragomer.. he gets blamed for everything
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Re: Do you get blamed for every thing one your team!!!

Our coach gave me a $500 fine yestarday because nobody put away this box that had a bunch of things we ordered out on a table. It was empty and the order costed $500. He asked me if i knew where the parts were (He gave the box to me at the begining of our meeting the day before), I was like - ****. 10 minutes later he opens up a cabnet and takes out all the parts, he smiled and said he hoped I wouldnt do it again. I can tell you this right now, im never going to leave anything out again LOL.

Everyone makes mistakes, when I am teaching newbies how to do things I usualy let them figure it out themselves, then check it before they do anything irreversable (drill a hole, or cut something). If they set it up wrong or didnt mark it right then i tell them and they usualy gladly fix it. I dont blame them and say stuff like "You cant do anything right!". I save that for when they have a real bad additude about everything
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Re: Do you get blamed for every thing one your team!!!

I find it more fun to blame one of our team leads Troy just cause it works out that way
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Re: Do you get blamed for every thing one your team!!!

wee=ll not yet anyway, not because I'm a rookie but because I'm on programming. When the robot is finished being built, sure a few tweaks here and there but if the robot doesn't move, "PROGRAMMING!!"
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Re: Do you get blamed for every thing one your team!!!

Quote:
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Remember any mistakes that you make can always be corrected with super glue.
HAHA...or duct tape
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