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Unread 20-03-2005, 15:41
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Re: Problems with autoloader

I saw autoloaders that weren't even manned in the practice rounds The team that mentored us our rookie year sat with no tetras to stack for half the match becuase they had no one manning the autloaders. That practice is really important at your first regional.
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Re: Problems with autoloader

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But during our second to last match one of the FIRST volunteers decided not to restock the autoloader because he was staring into space. This not only cost us time, but the match. Has anyone else had problems like this?
Well, I was frustrated at the time of the incident and I would have been more if it costed us the finals, but the volunteers are just people and they make mistakes. Plus, you have to realize, without them, we would not have a FIRST, so we should all thank them.
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Unread 20-03-2005, 12:51
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Re: Problems with autoloader

We only used the auto-loader to pick up tetras, and I don't recall experiencing any problems in tetra availability. The Chesapeake volunteers did a nice job of keeping them loaded; I saw them put a new tetra on almost immediately after our robot grabbed one off.
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Re: Problems with autoloader

I worked the blue autoloader at UTC with Justin, and same as him, I kept my conscious thought on the station itself, as long as there was a robot on the blue side of the field. It's true that it is the best seat in the house as far as viewing the action goes. There were times where I'd have to jump back for fear of getting impaled or smacked in the head by a robot arm. But, it is easy to loose track of where you are, especially if you don't get as much sleep as usual. Standing that close to the action, it's very easy to just stare at the robots and watch the magic.

There were times when I had to wait a few seconds before putting a new tetra on the loader, because the robots didn't back away. It's important to keep in mind field attendants can't reload the tetras until the robot has backed and cleared away from the loading zone. This is for the safety of the attendant, and to prevent the attendants from helping the robots by effectively dropping the tetra into the robot's arms. All in all though, it was a great experience, and I'll be doing it again at the NYC regional next week.
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Unread 20-03-2005, 13:04
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Re: Problems with autoloader

If this happened to me while I was driving I would (make the robot) charge the side of the field to get their attention back where it should be.
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Re: Problems with autoloader

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There were times when I had to wait a few seconds before putting a new tetra on the loader, because the robots didn't back away. It's important to keep in mind field attendants can't reload the tetras until the robot has backed and cleared away from the loading zone. This is for the safety of the attendant, and to prevent the attendants from helping the robots by effectively dropping the tetra into the robot's arms. All in all though, it was a great experience, and I'll be doing it again at the NYC regional next week.
I also did this at the UTC regional and found a similar experience. One time during a qualification match a team picked up a tetra and backed up, but their zip tie fingers used to make sure they were touching the loading zone were still touching the loading zone. After a couple of seconds I glanced over at the driver station and the drivers of that robot made some gestures kind of wondering why I was not loading the tetra. I did appraoch the drivers and coach after the match to explain that (since they couldn't see the zip tie fingers from their angle) so they wouldn't have a bitter memory of that match and so they knew for the future. The drivers and coach graciously listened without complaining.
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Re: Problems with autoloader

The only problem we had with the auto loaders was that on thursday, we were picking up tetras without being in the loading zone, and no one said anything to us about it. That became an issue on friday in the first match. From one side, I say I don't care, if were not in the zone, but loading go ahead and let the other teams mess with us, we can deal with it. I understand where they are coming from though, safety of the attendants, we had a 6' arm (5' beam and a unfolding hook) that would have to be out horizontally when loading, get rammed by another bot, not a pretty picture for the attendant.

Thats ok, we have a human player that is awesome, we have come into the zone with the arm sticking out in the most akward of ways and she twists and turns and limbos and never got us a penalty once. Our arm backdrives with the tetra on and once she put the tetra on and got out of the station underneath the arm. I nearly crapped myself when she did that, but she didn't touch it... So the human player is working out even better than the autoloader, I'm definitely happy with that.

I don't think I saw too many autoloaders knocked over at the Chesapeake regional, but then I was in the pits a lot, so that isn't saying that much.
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Re: Problems with autoloader

i have not seen any problems with the auto-loaders yet. the volunteers at the central florida regional were very quick to reload them. the only problem i have with them is that triangle you have to be on while loading. i wish it was bigger!!!
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