Go to Post If it were easy it wouldn't be worth triple the points, right? - SenorZ [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > General Forum
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 22-03-2005, 22:19
psquared psquared is offline
Registered User
no team
Team Role: Programmer
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Chantilly
Posts: 34
psquared is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Noticed any patterns?

considering that FIRST has only been around a short while now, it seems improbable to extrapolate a pattern or conclusions with such a small data set

also, i doubt they would make any patterns, b/c the heads of FIRST know how smart the kids are that participate in the competition, and they know that at least one would figure out the pattern, if they figured out a pattern, the 6 weeks could almost become null because a team could design months in advanced if they knew the competition

also, there seem to be a lot of ideas flying around here, so you guys should know about Occam's Razor:

Quote:
In its simplest form, Occam's Razor states that one should not make more assumptions than needed. When multiple explanations are available for a phenomenon, the simplest version is preferred
here the simplest explanation is that there is no pattern

this is just my two cents, i could be fully wrong
Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 22-03-2005, 23:35
Vin211's Avatar
Vin211 Vin211 is offline
Registered User
FRC #0237 (T.R.I.B.E)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Rookie Year: 1998
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 184
Vin211 will become famous soon enoughVin211 will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to Vin211 Send a message via Yahoo to Vin211
Question Re: Noticed any patterns?

I think FIRST will next try to use a triangular object once again. It seemed from 2000 - 2002 nothing but balls were used. I don't know what do you guys think?
__________________
Vincent Zotto

Sie-H20 Bots (1999 - 2002)
Cyber Knights (2003 - 2005)
Sie-H20 Bots (2007 - Present)
Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 22-03-2005, 22:45
mtaman02's Avatar
mtaman02 mtaman02 is offline
FIRST's Spare, Queuer & Tech guy =)
AKA: Mike M. / Mouse =)
no team (FRC Volunteer)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: Staten Island, NYC
Posts: 1,504
mtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant futuremtaman02 has a brilliant future
Send a message via AIM to mtaman02 Send a message via Yahoo to mtaman02
Re: Past 5 years in detail

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Krass
2003 was actually the first year of autonomous, but it retained PBASIC programming, C didn't come around until 2004.
whoops sorry for the mix up. I coulda swore though 2003 had c programming. oh wells, just another way of telling me i've been outta the game for too long.

as for a pattern, the only pattern which really isn't a pattern is FIRST seems to like balls espicially the soccre size ones

maybe next year will be inflatable clowns and a water game - object don't deflate the clown.
__________________
Past FIRST Robotics Events that I proudly volunteered at:
FLL: NY State Competition '03
FRC: NYC Remote Kickoff '04 & NYC Regionals '04-'15 ,'10-'13 & NJ Regionals '06-'10, Finger Lakes Regional '09 & SBPLI Regional '08-'15 and the World Championship in '05 (Galileo Field) '07 (Newton Field) '09 (Practice Fields Attendant / FTA(A)), CeBIT Convention in '04 & NextFEST in '06 both held @ the Javitts Center, Monty Madness '07-'10, Panda-monium '08, B.Eruption '08 & '09, Ramp Riot '08, PARC '09 & '10, BR^2 '09 & Wol. Inv. '09 -'15
2015 FIRST Robotics Off Season Events that I hope to volunteer at:
Where is Wolcott Invitational
2015 FIRST Robotics Events that I will be volunteering at:
SBPLI Reg. & Championships
Volunteer Resume:
Alt & Lead Team Queuer, Field Repair/Reset, Field Setup/Breakdown, Spare Parts Attendant, Field Power Controller/Score Keeper, Co-Emcee & Official Scorer, Control System Advisor, FIRST Tech Advisor Assistant & recently Practice Field Attendant.
Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 22-03-2005, 23:28
Katy's Avatar
Katy Katy is offline
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
no team
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: CA
Posts: 257
Katy has a reputation beyond reputeKaty has a reputation beyond reputeKaty has a reputation beyond reputeKaty has a reputation beyond reputeKaty has a reputation beyond reputeKaty has a reputation beyond reputeKaty has a reputation beyond reputeKaty has a reputation beyond reputeKaty has a reputation beyond reputeKaty has a reputation beyond reputeKaty has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Katy Send a message via MSN to Katy
Re: Noticed any patterns?

I think any pattern between games is because even when you have people as creative as FIRST does running things some ideas tend stick around and become recycled. I think we alternate between circles squares and triangles frequently because...well you mentally put them in a strong connection with FIRST. I think most of these patterns are from people looking at a game and saying "what could we do differently" and you kind of bounce between opposites.

If I had any chance to guess at the game next year I would go for cheap, durable and accessible field components...mostly because I really want to see it and so I pretend it will happen

It is probably roughly the time that they will give us a blocked field again. Either a bar to go under or a barrier to go over...or something to climb up... This year there was nothing in your way aside from goals and last year we had a fairly open field as well (at least more open than 2003 or 2001.)

I don't think there will be so many people so close to the robots again...it made too many penalties. If they had something like a box with an open lid actually in the field they could have the back of the box open for loading...and have it just be in the rules that if any robot is within 5 feet of the box (maybe a semicircular line at that point) the box won't reload. It could be strategic too if you could control when a team gets parts to load

I'm hoping that we get a taller driver's station because at the Pacific Northwest Regional we came awfully close to capping a driver.

I bet you next year's base code will be very complete and detailed.

I bet you next year's autonomous will not be any harder but it will probably be longer.

And I bet you I'm totally wrong...but sounding smart/making noise is far to much fun to not do it.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
I just noticed something... evulish Chit-Chat 21 27-09-2002 22:56
Something I noticed from all regional team parties.... Hymnson Regional Competitions 27 16-08-2002 09:57
If anyone hasn't noticed.... archiver 2000 5 23-06-2002 22:41
Power Wheels parts needed: Will trade, sell soul, etc. archiver 1999 13 23-06-2002 22:27
What can we do to get noticed WorkThoseBuns Regional Competitions 17 21-03-2002 20:57


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 13:02.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi