Favorite Teams that did not get picked

[DarkJedi613]

Originally Posted by The Lucas

I couldn't believe that 358, the Robo Eagles, did not get picked in Galileo. I expected them to be off the board before my team. They won a regional, almost won another. They were ranked around 16th (second highest seed not picked). I watched a couple of their matches and they were dominant, capping corner goals over top of defenders. That was a lapse in scouting.

Thanks! We were glad you guys got picked though.

I think 237 should have been picked, they had a great robot! I also think some of the teams (at least in Galileo) should have been picked higher than they were.

It was still fun though.

Originally Posted by the_short1

i was also very surprised by the poor scouting at galileo.. at Great lakes and toronto the scouting seemed very good . .

but in galileo it seemed teams picked other teams for the ppl not for the robots..like common!.. a 75seed team adn 80seed team were picked.. .. whats up with that?

One of those teams was 103 though, and that was GREAT scouting on whoever picked them (I can't remember - sorry). 103 had a great robot and just had a tough schedule and a few matches lost by one or two tetras.

[jessjank.]

Originally Posted by DarkJedi613

One of those teams was 103 though, and that was GREAT scouting on whoever picked them (I can't remember - sorry). 103 had a great robot and just had a tough schedule and a few matches lost by one or two tetras.

Thank you for the recognition of our team. We were chosen by the 6th alliance, team 16 - Bomb Squad. Like many other teams in Galileo, luck just wasn't with us during the qualifying rounds. Many matches were lost by a mere 1 or 2 points, as was the case with so many other teams throughout the competition, and we ended with a 3-4 record. Unfortunately there were many teams that played fantastically, but ran into some bad luck, ranked below their level of play, and were not chosen. I can understand how surprising it is for a team ranked so low in the standings, such as ourselves, to be chosen in the first round. Cybersonics is very grateful that we were picked and given the opportunity to play Saturday afternoon against some spectacular alliances, including the one that went on to win Galileo and become the Championship finalists.

[ben281]

There was definately a lot of confusion and problems in the Galileo department. I was dissapointed with how things were run. There were some teams who came off the field and didn't even get to go back to the pit before pickings had started. No one even knew the placings. We ended up 25th, and capped no less than 4 a match, averaging 5 and there were teams that were capping only 2-3 a match getting picked. all this to say that a lot of random stuff was going on. (ugh, we lost a match by 1 point and one by 2 points as well which would have put us in 3rd, oh well life is a bummer). but i still had fun at nats! congrats to everyone who did well.
Oh and i was also surprised 358 wasn't picked, sorry guys!
Ben
Team 281

[DarkJedi613]

Originally Posted by jessjank.

Thank you for the recognition of our team. We were chosen by the 6th alliance, team 16 - Bomb Squad.

You guys were definitly on our list thinking you'd be a great pick since we weren't sure how many people noticed you down there. We remembered how great you did at Philly though.

Thanks ben281.

[Mike Ciance]

7, 75, 222, 237, and 1251 should have all been picked. 237 should have been a first round pick

Originally Posted by Dorienne Plait

from what I heard from Mike on 25, they lost almost every match

actually, one of our losses was replayed, and we ended up winning for a 3-4 final record. we got in 54th place out of 82 teams

[katiyeh07]

TJ Squared

[Adrienne E.]

One team that I was really surprised to hear didn't make the finals was 1403. They were our partners at the Buckeye Regional and they were amazing. At one point in the finals I was paying attention to our robot the entire match and at the end of the 2 minutes I looked up and 1403 had single handedly capped the entire opponent’s home row. Tough break you guys, I can’t wait to see what you come up with next year.

[slickguy2007]

Originally Posted by Adrienne E.

One team that I was really surprised to hear didn't make the finals was 1403. They were our partners at the Buckeye Regional and they were amazing. At one point in the finals I was paying attention to our robot the entire match and at the end of the 2 minutes I looked up and 1403 had single handedly capped the entire opponent’s home row. Tough break you guys, I can’t wait to see what you come up with next year.

Thank you. We tried hard, but it happens. This just motivates us to build an even stronger robot for next year. We'll see you in Ohio again next year.


GO 1403!!!

[ScoutingNerd175]

Originally Posted by katiyeh07

TJ Squared

I agree, team 88 definitely should have been picked. I don't know how they did at nationals, but they were at both of the regionals we attended. (In fact, they were seated in front of us at one regional and next to us at the other.) They are a very spirited team and they have a really good robot. I was so surprised when I walked by a couple of the guys from team 88 and they told me that they weren't in the finals, I actually called one of my team mates in the stands to tell her.
I was also surprised that team 138 wasn't picked. They were our first choice at BAE. (we ended up being finalists) Our scouting system was not very good at BAE (It basically consisted of "Who do you think is good?") and none of us were quite sure how they would do. They ended up being a great pick. (and also a very nice group of people) I was really happy that they ended up getting to play.
I was also sad to see that teams 007 and 122 who we were with in Annapolis were not picked. They were both really good.
I definitely agree that there should be more time in between the end of qualifying matches and the begining of picking. Due to the limited time between the end of our last match and the beginning of alliance picking, the person who usually does our alliance picking (our human player) and I (the scout captain) didn't make it to the field until we had already made our first pick. Thank god our driver knew who our first choice was and had the opportunity to pick them. We then figured out our second choice by making hand signals (this is difficult as I do not have 108 fingers and there were quite a few teams in our division who's team number had the numbers 1 and 8 in it) and finally writing numbers on the back of our scouting sheets and holding them up.
We have developed a very objective scouting system (which I am very proud of) which works really well and nearly ensures that we don't overlook good teams, no matter what their seed. However, at BAE our scouting system was purely subjective and I am sure that we overlooked good teams simply because no one remembered them.

[av11d]

Thanks to all those recognized our robot! Yeah, we were dissapointed we didn't get picked but that's just how the game goes. We don't seem to have great luck getting picked at nationals. We went undefeated at nats in 2003 and were seeded in the top 15 and didn't get picked. So, as I claim, we still went "undefeated" at the 2003 nationals.

As for teams I feel should have been picked... 237, 1403, and 25 all stick out in my mind. They were all amazing at the NJ regional. 222 was also a great robot.

Hopefully we'll see you all in our division next year!

[slickguy2007]

Originally Posted by av11d

Thanks to all those recognized our robot! Yeah, we were dissapointed we didn't get picked but that's just how the game goes. We don't seem to have great luck getting picked at nationals. We went undefeated at nats in 2003 and were seeded in the top 15 and didn't get picked. So, as I claim, we still went "undefeated" at the 2003 nationals.

As for teams I feel should have been picked... 237, 1403, and 25 all stick out in my mind. They were all amazing at the NJ regional. 222 was also a great robot.

Hopefully we'll see you all in our division next year!

Thanxs. We tried out hardest out there and our team is proud of what we accomplished. I was also surprised to see that your team, 75, didn't get picked. You were consistent performers and very good at what you did. I was also surprised that teams 237, 222, 1279 and 25 didn't get picked. I know 25 had some mechanical issues, but they still performed really well. Don't worry guys, we'll get em' next year.

GO 1403, 75, 237, 1279, and 25!!!

[-matt-]

I know its been said, but I have to say it again:

237- they were awesome in finger lakes, and they were one of thye few teams that could actually cap a vision tetra in auto. Plus, they worked really well in a team.

301 - These people were also awesome, controlling the home row for us in detroit.

[Wayne C.]

Originally Posted by slickguy2007

I was also surprised that teams 237, 222, 1279 and 25 didn't get picked. I know 25 had some mechanical issues, but they still performed really well. Don't worry guys, we'll get em' next year.

GO 1403, 75, 237, 1279, and 25!!!

Re: those Mechanical Issues- Last weekend at PARC throughout the day we once again had the same mechanical issues and the mast mechanism seemed to be getting slower and slower. It totally shot the seeding rounds while we replaced the motor and tried to trouble shoot what was wrong.

It turns out that at Nats when we uncrated the robot we had told the kids who worked on the robot to check all the screws and make sure nothing was loose or missing- simple procedure.

So they did- and tightened down all the loose screws they found-

Including all the axle hubs for the pulleys inside the tower making the entire mechanism a lesson in friction. There was enough power to move the tower but the resistance eliminated the ability to lift tetras.

At lunch at PARC we finally noticed the error and fixed it.

Needless to say- the elimination rounds went MUCH better.....


This is how you learn....

WC

[Dorienne]

I was surprised when 222 and 25 didn't get chosen. They've built amazing robots over the past couple years I've known them, and when I heard they did not get chosen, I was astonished. From what I heard from Mike on 25, they lost almost every match.

Bad alliancing usually happens, and mistakes are made. Poor scouting is always a factor as well. I would suspect that teams look at how the alliance does, not the robot itself. That's a problem I think should be fixed in team scouting plans. Look at the robot, guys, not the alliance. Big mistake.

[MobiusOne358]

Since bad scouting (or rather, being in an unexpected picking position or inexperience) is the reason for much of this, perhaps FIRST should try to do something about it. Maybe they could post the overall stats of their teams on their website or maybe let each team make a statement about themselves and why they should be picked and should display it. I know it sounds wierd....but if it's a problem basically every year, FIRST should perhaps do something to help.