Fans Of Michael Moore

[JackN]

I just wondered if on these vast chief-delphi forums there were any other fans of michael moore?

[Rafi Ahmed]

one right here!

[Cory]

I think his movies are entertaining, and generally my political views are similar to his.

I don't think you can watch one of his movies, take everything at face value, and consider yourself informed on the issues he presents. Like any filmmaker, he's presenting only one side to the story-one very biased side.

Good "thinking" entertainment-bad singular source of information.

[Joe Matt]

Originally Posted by Cory

I think his movies are entertaining, and generally my political views are similar to his.

I don't think you can watch one of his movies, take everything at face value, and consider yourself informed on the issues he presents. Like any filmmaker, he's presenting only one side to the story-one very biased side.

Good "thinking" entertainment-bad singular source of information.

I agree Cory. While he does bring up many points to look at that everyone should, his outcome in terms of opinions or bias shouldn't necessaraly be yours. But remember, Robin Hood steals from the rich to give to the poor and is a great story and moral lesson, but it's not a documentary by any standards as the view of the rich and their reasons arn't listed or described. Apply that here too.

As for the first question, fan, no, supporter, his 1st ammendment rights, yes, and someone who watches his movies, enjoys them, and wants to see others, yes.

[Conor Ryan]

I'm a big fan of his work in Team America:World Police, Fahrenheit 9/11 was pretty good too, a bit extreme but it was still good.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by cdr1122334455

I'm a big fan of his work in Team America:World Police, Fahrenheit 9/11 was pretty good too, a bit extreme but it was still good.

Um, he didn't direct Team America. He only does documentaries. That was Matt Stone and Trey Parker.

[jonathan lall]

Originally Posted by Cory

Um, he didn't direct Team America. He only does documentaries.

Then you need to go watch Canadian Bacon immediately. An entertaining movie.

[Alex Cormier]

Originally Posted by jonathan lall

Then you need to go watch Canadian Bacon immediately. An entertaining movie.

hilarious movie!

[Joshua May]

Originally Posted by Cory

Um, he didn't direct Team America. He only does documentaries. That was Matt Stone and Trey Parker.

He made a guest appearance in the movie, however.

Yeah, I'm a fan of Michael Moore, I like his style of documentary and my political views are aligned with his.

[Wetzel]

Originally Posted by Documentary

Presenting facts objectively without editorializing or inserting fictional matter, as in a book or film.

I don't like his style of "documentary". There is nothing objective about his films and calling them documentaries is misleading and wrong.

Wetzel

[KelliV]

Originally Posted by Wetzel

calling them documentaries is misleading and wrong

I agree... I am going to school to become a documentary film maker and when we attended our first class the professor out right told us that if we were to ever make anything like his he would flunk us out of the class. He goes about making his movies the wrong way and is out to hurt people. Documentaries are not souppoused to do that... they are made to inform people.

Originally Posted by mathking

This does not necessarily mean they are not also documentaries. Being a documentary just means presenting facts.

Although I agree on this statement Moore's facts are bogus and they cannot be backed up. Take a look at his movies and then go to the "sources" he uses. When my debate team looked up his research nearly 45% of the sources are not there and another 20% are in places that provide a lot of false infornmation.

But in general I am glad that his work is out there. It is a good thing for other people to see. Even though I hate some of the movies (Bowling for Columbine is pretty good)... they cause people to think and maybe will even inspire others to do research on things that they too feel passionate about. Hey... maybe if I am lucky there will be a larger market for documentaries in the future.

-Kelli

[Mike]

I respect his opinions, but I hate the way he presents them. He takes advantage of ignorant minds, by presenting a one sided argument where nearly all of his arguments can be shot down if only given a chance.

"I disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
- Voltaire

[Beth Sweet]

In every editorial, there exists at least a bit of truth. There is virtually nothing composed of pure fiction, most begins with an ounce of truth. Of course it would be ridiculous to present an editorial as pure fact. There is nothing that is pure fact in this world. Everything that exists is presented with a bit of opinion, I don't care if it is Michael Moore's films or a news report on the grass growing outside the station's building. Everything spoken by humans includes opinion. I find Michael Moore's work to be good because it presents a view on situations than people may have seen before. The only way that people can be truly intelligent and educated is if they look at all sides of the situation, bo matter which they believe at the end of their research. Don't close off your mind to any possibility before you have fully analyzed all views and options.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by David Kelly

Saying that his documentries are informative and truthful is like saying that we never landed on the moon.

Originally Posted by KelliV

Although I agree on this statement Moore's facts are bogus and they cannot be backed up. Take a look at his movies and then go to the "sources" he uses. When my debate team looked up his research nearly 45% of the sources are not there and another 20% are in places that provide a lot of false infornmation.

Sorry, but to say that everything he says is flat out wrong is just not true. Plenty of what he says has factual basis, he just twists it to fit his own purposes. This is the same thing many of his conservative counterparts do.

That's why numerous people have said you cannot take what he says at face value--you need to do your own research and draw your own conclusions, not let someone else draw them for you.

Originally Posted by Mike

I respect his opinions, but I hate the way he presents them. He takes advantage of ignorant minds, by presenting a one sided argument where nearly all of his arguments can be shot down if only given a chance.

Isn't that what politics are all about?

[Mike]

Originally Posted by Cory

Isn't that what politics are all about?

Haha, touche.