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Re: Fans Of Michael Moore

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Um, he didn't direct Team America. He only does documentaries.
Ah, not quite.... Michael Moore's films aren't documentaries, they're editorials. They present his opinions, not objective facts.
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Re: Fans Of Michael Moore

he does presents his material interestly....you have to call them editorals because it's based on his views....

he just makes you think about various issues which is pretty cool....

i do like a lot of this work though...
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Re: Fans Of Michael Moore

Saying that his documentries are informative and truthful is like saying that we never landed on the moon.


I wonder that that millionare is going to do with all that money he made from the F9/11 movie to help the "poor" people in this country he always talks about.....
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Re: Fans Of Michael Moore

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Saying that his documentries are informative and truthful is like saying that we never landed on the moon.


I wonder that that millionare is going to do with all that money he made from the F9/11 movie to help the "poor" people in this country he always talks about.....
Well, a 1 minute google search found this

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0702-07.htm

Says that 60% of the profits are going to charaties.

And then CNN has a story

http://money.cnn.com/2004/07/02/news...eit_charities/
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Re: Fans Of Michael Moore

In the recent past, a thread here about atheism effectively became, simultaneoulsy, a debate about whether we ought to be allowed to discuss atheism at all and a challenge to the atheist viewpoint.

Here, we have a thread specifically in search of "fans of Michael Moore." This is not a thread for people who dislike Michael Moore and it might do some a bit of good to recognize and respect that and keep quiet about their discontent. If you feel compelled to proselytize further about Michael Moore's work, perhaps you'd consider starting your own thread in search of like-minded people.

Debate and conversation should be encouraged, of course, but it is equally important to respect and provide safe spaces for congruent individuals to share and learn from one another in anticipation of the inevitable onslaught of ideas and views in opposition to their own.

I liked "Bowling for Columbine" but detested "Fahrenheit 9/11" and can understand why many would not like Moore's brand of 'documentary,' just as I can understand why some may not feel that atheism is a valid theology. What I am yet to understand is why those people can't afford even the slightest modicum of respect for those seeking others like themselves and, instead, must try to satiate an unceasing need to espouse their own contradictory, unsolicited views.
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Re: Fans Of Michael Moore

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Saying that his documentries are informative and truthful is like saying that we never landed on the moon.


I wonder that that millionare is going to do with all that money he made from the F9/11 movie to help the "poor" people in this country he always talks about.....
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Well, a 1 minute google search found this

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0702-07.htm

Says that 60% of the profits are going to charaties.

And then CNN has a story

http://money.cnn.com/2004/07/02/new...heit_charities/
The 60% of the net profits going to charity is actually from Disney's share of the profits, not from Michael Moore's own money. He actually did make that much (relative to the normal take of a director/producer of a $100 million plus grossing movie) on the movie. On the other hand, he actually does give quite a bit of money and his own time to organizations which help the poor and to other causes.

I am not sure what the quotation marks around poor were supposed to signify, but I am hoping not a disdain for there actually being poor people who need help. There are actually quite a few poor people in this country.

I completely agree that Mr. Moore's movies are not balanced and objective. They are editorials. This does not necessarily mean they are not also documentaries. Being a documentary just means presenting facts. There is really nothing about making a documentary that requires objectivity. In fact many if not most documentaries are attempts to prove a point and are inherently editorial in nature.

I don't particularly care for his style of political persuasion, though I do think he has a lot of talent for humor and makes movies that people like to watch. If you are going to use humor to "go for the jugular" I think satire is better medium.
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