pic: 2007 Game Hint?

[spinmunky]

Originally Posted by dlavery

Just to make sure that I don't slip up and give away too much, are you a-peeling for one clue or a bunch?

-dave

i have some more thoughts after re-reading this. i think that the blue line in the middle will be a river which might explain the slip part. and i think that u can't cross this river and u have to use an arm or something to grab different colored fish on the other side held down by Velcro or something sticky which might go with the peeling part. and about the bunch part.. maybe if u can grab more than on fish at a time u get more points? now i have no idea about the banana....maybe there could be some banana like obstacles on the field?

[brycecal]

Originally Posted by spinmunky

i have some more thoughts after re-reading this. i think that the blue line in the middle will be a river which might explain the slip part. and i think that u can't cross this river and u have to use an arm or something to grab different colored fish on the other side held down by Velcro or something sticky which might go with the peeling part.

Maybe you have to grab the banana to cross the line and you can't get touched by your opponents (fish) or you get points taken away and you have to deliver the banana to a spot on the other side with out getting touched by your opponents. The three fish seem to be waiting for the robot to cross the line (which is underwater) so they can tag him or block him from getting to the spot.

[pufame]

Here's what I'm thinking...

1) The whole banana thing was just to make the line for having a "bunch" of clues. Which brings me to my next point...

2) That post saying a "Bunch" of clues means that the picture gives away more than one element to the game...

3)I have two different thoughts on the words "slip" and "peel" in that post...
They are there to enhance the bannana theme . Or they are there to show that their will be a slipery aspect to the game. However the picture shows the game on the traditional carpet, meaning that the slippery aspect must be introduced in the scoring portion. Still working aout how this could be...

4) Enough with the follow up post... Back to the picture... The whole water-esque look of the picture could be a few things... To fuel threads like this about a water based game (however I don't think this is correct, because a post was quickly made downplaying the possibility of a water game), meaning that the water feel of the picture represents something else. I would just like to go on the record that I don't think any water at all will be on the field, it sort of contradicts the whole 'saftery first' thing. So... again... I have no idea what the water may represent but I'm working on it.

5) There is one robot on the field and three fish. Now I have a few ideas on what this means. First, it could be that points are allotted on a 1 v 3 basis, with there being four rounds, each robot getting a turn to be the offensive robot, and that being the period where that robot can gain points for ranking. However, there are a few factors working against this, it would completely do away with alliance selections, and in the picture a blue startign box can be seen. This blue box probably means there will still be alliances. Now my other thought (which I think is the most plausible thing I've said in this whole post...) on what the fish could mean is that they represent three ways to score. This wouold tie in with the whole "slippery" way of scoring supported by the bananas thing earlier. The other reason I think this is true... take a look at the uppermost fish, it's one of those fish who have a light hanging from their head. I'm thinking it represents the light for the camera. The other two fish look smaller, but not as tough, and they do not have a light. Meaning that those will be the other ways to score and will not use a camera and are not as tough to get but will produce less points. The textures and colors on the fish could very well have something else to do with how to score, but I'm saving that thought for another day...

6)The lights reflected on the back of the robot... On this one I'm gonna say take it at face value, those are the colors for the Autonomous light. However I did have another thought, why are the lights reflected on top of the robot? Could this mean that there will be colored lights high above the field that the robot can use to find position during Auto, it certainly would make for a more complex Auto, something that seems to be a pattern as the years go on...

7) I know that the design on the thing hasn't changed much through all the animations, but why does the robot still have a plow on it? Could this also be a clue on how to score? Once again... I don't know how... Still working that out...

Anyway... I know I left alot of blanks in this post... but it's everything I've though of when I looked at the picture. Just a side note, I love how the picture came out so early this year. It gives me something to ponder when I don't want to listen to whatever the teacher is saying in school...

[Morgan Gillespie]

I don't know if anyone has said this yet but, by the blue alliance box this tells up that they will not be changing the alliance colors. Thus this debunks the idea of the multi-colored lights. Proving they were just a joke, well at least in the colors they showed us. Yet then again what other easily distinguishable colors are there?

[pufame]

Originally Posted by Mercury Rising

I don't know if anyone has said this yet but, by the blue alliance box this tells up that they will not be changing the alliance colors. Thus this debunks the idea of the multi-colored lights. Proving they were just a joke, well at least in the colors they showed us. Yet then again what other easily distinguishable colors are there?

What does the blue allianc box have to do with the lights??? I mean the light was green this year and the alliance colors were blue and red??? Or do you mean that the alliance format wouln't change, because blue was a color they showed us and they could also keep blue and add more alliances... Sorry, just a bit confused by this post.

[Kristian Calhoun]

Originally Posted by pufame

What does the blue allianc box have to do with the lights??? I mean the light was green this year and the alliance colors were blue and red??? Or do you mean that the alliance format wouln't change, because blue was a color they showed us and they could also keep blue and add more alliances... Sorry, just a bit confused by this post.

Morgan and I were talking about this the other day. I believe that what he means is that since there is a blue alliance as indicated by the blue alliance starting box, there will once again be the red and blue lights, indicating the red and blue alliances above the player stations. So if they did have the red/green/blue lights for the camera to track, the camera can accidently track the red and blue lights of the player stations.

[|20807 61|2|_]

Originally Posted by dlavery

Just to make sure that I don't slip up and give away too much, are you a-peeling for one clue or a bunch?

-dave

This game just gets crazier everytime we get a new hint. Maybe we are stuck in one place? Or mabye a floor with no traction?i still don't know.

[Dylan]

I don't think a water game will happen for the following reasons:

A) Practice fields would be INSANELY hard to construct, because in addition to the field elements, teams would have to basically build a POOL to test their robot in.

B) It occurs to me that dripping wet robots being constantly wheeled to and from the field would create an enormous wet floor hazard throughout the pits.

C) Aside from the obvious problems of robots sinking and then needing their entire electrical system replaced, the water would quickly become polluted with grease and who knows what else. Besides the "yuck" factor, how would FIRST dispose of this water after the event?

D) Considering how much damage was done to the fields this year, I shudder to think what could happen with a water filled field. (Tsunami!! )

[Nuttyman54]

Originally Posted by |20807 61|2|_

This game just gets crazier everytime we get a new hint. Maybe we are stuck in one place? Or mabye a floor with no traction?i still don't know.

an all HDPE floor would be awsome. If they had that, I think it would be the first year since 1992 that they wouldn't have carpeting as the main field cover...

[JaneYoung]

I love to look up words in dictionaries and find things to think about, has anyone done this with these words?

[Gabe]

HOW DID THE WATER IDEA GET STARTED???
I noticed that everyone here is talking about a water based challenge sometime in the future. Why is this? There must have been some rumor or story that I never heard about. I really would like to know why everyone seems to take this idea so seriously. I'm not criticizing either FIRST or any one individual. I just really want to know the reason why WATER is being anticipated.

What I would like someone to do is to reply to this on this post and include links to other threads within this forum where I may find the story behind the idea of the water based challenge.

[Tetraman]

Water can not be a possibility. The safely percautions, the extra materials, the necessity to make robots water-tight and protection from electricty. It would be a mess I can't see FIRST doing. Teams that can't build so wonderous carpet robots will have a heck of a time with water bots.

[dlavery]

For a quick reprise of the never ending discussion about a water-based game, you can read through this thread. And for all those that believe that a water-based game is an absolute impossibility, I would recommend that you pay particular attention to Post #11 in that thread.

Nothing is "impossible." "Highly improbable" is just the start of an interesting intellectual exercize.

-dave (I am still holding out for the jello-based game)

[Joel J]

Originally Posted by dlavery

I figured that we may as well get this out of the way now. Everyone has been clamoring for so long for a water-based game (I am still trying for the jello-based game, but that is another discussion for another time...), that we had to just give in and give the teams what they were demanding. However, everyone involved with the game design process realized that the infrastructure modifications that would be needed were fairly substantial, and probably not the sort of thing that could be done on short notice. Therefore, we have modified our system to release this hint a full year in advance so that both teams and competition facilities can begin to consider how to contend with this twist on the game concept. So now you have something to do other than burning out all those brain cells trying to decipher the 2006 Official Game Hint!

-dave

p.s. you will find out what the banana is for in April.

^--- That was at the end of 2005, saying 2006 was short notice.. now, the scenery has changed! If I see water at kickoff, then I am going to freak!

[Cascade]

What if the banana was really a pipe fish?