**FIRST EMAIL**/Advance Materials List and Autodesk Virtual Kit of Parts Information

[blue_crew]

what if it is a triangular platform with ramps coming off of the three sides. some kind of goal/bar would be above the platform.
two of the ramps' plywood would be covered with lexan (4'x8'), the third ramp covered with aluminum tread(4'x8').
this idea could be modified for a truncated pyramid also.
2 ramps would be lexan coated, another would be aluminum tread, and the 4th be just plywood...

[Tom Bottiglieri]

Lauan is a cheaper alternative to standard plywood, and you need 2 sheets of quarter inch thick 4x8' of either material.

My guess: These 2 sheets will not be driven on, or have enough support under them from the 16 million 2x4's in the BOM so that the strength of the material won't hamper its ability to be driven on by 130 lb robots.

Therefore, teams can 'cheap' out and save a few bucks by going with lauan. This fields going be expensive enough, and I think FIRST is trying to cut us as many breaks as possible.

[Conor Ryan]

Just for those of you who are going to buy some of these items, from personal experince I had great difficulty getting someone at multiple stores to even know what a carriage bolt is, I talked to at least 20 people and nobody was able to figure it out. So I hope this makes it a little easier to find at the store or your shop, heres a picture of a carriage bolt:

The list asks for 8, 3/8-16 x 4 carriage bolts

[Vince lau]

lets say the polycarbonate is used for a ramp of some sort, why would they used polycarbonate instead of HDPE or something else, unless we need to see throught the ramp.

Or maybe its some sort of polycarboate wall

[MikeDubreuil]

I think that the Luan will be used for the bottom of a scoring goal. The sides will be made with the 1/8" polycarbonate. This will be held in the air above the ramp with all the lumber.

[1075master]

has anyone tried the virtual KOP? the blast says theres a vitrual KOP but when i go there threre is nothing in the file!!

[Mike Betts]

Originally Posted by 1075master

has anyone tried the virtual KOP? the blast says theres a vitrual KOP but when i go there threre is nothing in the file!!

The parts will be available on Autodesk Streamline after the Kickoff event.

Like the rest of us, you will have to wait until Saturday...

Mike

[1075master]

lol i was just reading that and was about to change my post..

[team222badbrad]

No Casters?

I say ramp, I want a ramp!

Cough, Cough, GUM RUBBER!

[Michael Leicht]

i am wondering what FIRST will really use for this field.

[Ian Curtis]

What if the ramp didn't look like /T\ but instead looked like )T(?

Hmm, well the parathases didn't work it right, but it would be more like a quarter pipe on either side of a flat platform.

[Ryan Foley]

What about multiple ramps, maybe elevated goals in the corners or something, like the Vex game for this year. That could make things interesting.

[Andrew Blair]

I was thinking the same thing actually. The )T( thing would be a pain in the hiney to get up on though, if you really think about it.

[Peter Matteson]

There are a LOT of 2x4s here 17 8ft long each and 2 10 footers. If this is half a field like in previous years this is big. Also I don't think FIRST would use 1/8 polycarb for a ramp as mentioned. It's too thin for safety. I'm thinking transparent scoring column of some sort.

I figure the 4 3/4" plywood sheets are load bearing platforms, the 2 1/4" are a player station and the 1/2" is either a wall or platform that sees lower impact.

I have to say after last year's move to simple set up and low cost I'm kind shocked at how extensive this is.

Pete

[ScottM]

There's something missing......green paint