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View Poll Results: Is your team going aftr the ramp this year?
Yes, we are going after the ramp 211 90.95%
No, we are not going after the ramp 10 4.31%
Ramp??? What ramp? 11 4.74%
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Unread 01-02-2006, 14:04
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Re: Teams going after the ramp?

We are planning on installing a parking brake on one wheel. To mount the ramp we are going to hit it at an angle as fast as we can, engage the parking brake and slide sideways into our parking spot. This way we don't have to worry about tilting backwards! The key component to this plan is speed though!
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Re: Teams going after the ramp?

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We are planning on installing a parking brake on one wheel. To mount the ramp we are going to hit it at an angle as fast as we can, engage the parking brake and slide sideways into our parking spot.
Here is a video of Team 1480 parking their robot.
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Here is a video of Team 1480 parking their robot.

RATS! I guess yall beat us to our idea already!
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Unread 01-02-2006, 14:07
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Re: Teams going after the ramp?

something i just thought of. you can use the reverse method. how about instead of pinning an opposing robot on you ramp, sit on their ramp and prevent them from coming up. that gives them 5 points but not 25.
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Re: Teams going after the ramp?

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something i just thought of. you can use the reverse method. how about instead of pinning an opposing robot on you ramp, sit on their ramp and prevent them from coming up. that gives them 5 points but not 25.
If you can prevent all of them from getting up the ramp this might be something to look at. However, remember you have just given them 5 points, and taken 15 points away from your own alliance. If you are successful in blocking them, the net is +5 for your alliance. But if they can get one robot on the ramp despite your maneuvering to block, the net effect is 0. You would have achieved the same result if you ignored their ramping attempts and just focused on your own end.

If you know they can't get at least one of their robots on their ramp, you will come out +15 by getting all three on your own ramp.

You may be able to block the other alliance and then scoot off their ramp at the last second, thus depriving them of the 5 points your bot would have scored. Even so, not much gain for a risky strategy.
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Re: Teams going after the ramp?

Since i'm seeing a lot of out-of-the-box ideas, what about this? If your robot can shoot well and time's running down, dump a load of balls on their flat part of the ramp. it prevents them getting on the ramp :S. I know its a little bit of a point loss, but it could be worth it.
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Re: Teams going after the ramp?

we at team 815 can go up the ramp from a sitting position at the base of the ramp while carrying 120 lbs. this was one of our main goals
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Re: Teams going after the ramp?

With out any obstructions (balls - other robots) it's relatively easy to go up the ramp straight on. Try it at an angle approach with the robot at competition weight . It's a little more interesting
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Re: Teams going after the ramp?

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With out any obstructions (balls - other robots) it's relatively easy to go up the ramp straight on. Try it at an angle approach with the robot at competition weight . It's a little more interesting
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With out any obstructions (balls - other robots) it's relatively easy to go up the ramp straight on. Try it at an angle approach with the robot at competition weight . It's a little more interesting
I really have to agree with you there. You are basically testing how well your robot can perform under crappy conditions.
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But then again gyroscopes... gyroscopes...
What about gyroscopes? Oh yeah, are any teams attempting to have their robot shoot from the ramp?
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Re: Teams going after the ramp?

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I'm of the school of thought that any robot can make it up the ramp if they're going fast enough
The problem with this school of thought is that in practice it doesn't work. When you are running at the ramp at a great velocity, you will hit the steep ramp and essentially bounce back. If what you meant to say was that "If you are going fast enough when on the ramp" then that's funny (seriously).

[QUOTE = antthecyberguy]Our original thought was that of "the ramp is not worth it" but our robot design allows to go up it if necessary. We would hate to be the only one in the alliance that could not make it.[/quote]

I'm absolutely in agreement. You don't want to be the "downer" on your team that can't get up the ramp at the end, especially if your teammates are counting on you. Nicely said.


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Re: Teams going after the ramp?

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And you'd be alot more vaulable if you got the torque and the design to help your other alliance robots get up the ramp

Help other alliance. We plan on pushing the other teams robots our ramp just to make sure we get 25 points and they don't, that is a big swing of points.

and if they are stuck on your ramp they can't score and there are no pinning on the ramp.

Question is how many robots can you push up the ramp in 40 seconds

power, speed nice
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Re: Teams going after the ramp?

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Question is how many robots can you push up the ramp in 40 seconds

My guess is one. Unless you can co-ordinate with your alliance partner to hold the first on in place while you go get the second. And after the first one the other guys might decide to stay away from you.

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Re: Teams going after the ramp?

We're planning on it; time will tell whether the CG of our machine allows it.

Our team brainstorming came to the same conclusion as another poster in this thread - that if your robot can get up the ramp, you make yourself a valuable alliance partner to another team that also thinks it's important.

We saw many games in Triple Play that hinged on the 10-point bonus at the end of the match. Those 10 points were equivalent to a single completed row. The 25-point max team bonus this year equals a lot of balls in the goal. It could be important.
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Re: Teams going after the ramp?

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We're planning on it; time will tell whether the CG of our machine allows it.

Our team brainstorming came to the same conclusion as another poster in this thread - that if your robot can get up the ramp, you make yourself a valuable alliance partner to another team that also thinks it's important.

We saw many games in Triple Play that hinged on the 10-point bonus at the end of the match. Those 10 points were equivalent to a single completed row. The 25-point max team bonus this year equals a lot of balls in the goal. It could be important.
And you'd be alot more vaulable if you got the torque and the design to help your other alliance robots get up the ramp
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Re: Teams going after the ramp?

We will just speed toward the ramp but with the new traction wheels our robot has it might be able to grip onto the metal...either way we have brakes that will lock the robot in place so we won't roll of the ramp..we might be able to push "other robots" onto the ramp too
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