Top five, FLR edition

[Tim Delles]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

Unbeattable you say?
So you can take on three good robots all by yourself, san partners and win easily?
That is impressive.


Kid, I hate to break it to you but no team in FIRST has yet to build an unbeatable robot.
Not 71. Not 254. Not 233. 1114. 67. 217 or many many other great teams in FIRST. You need good drivers and strategy as well and you do need good partners as well who work well with your robot. This robot reminds me alot of their 2005 bot which was a top notch piece of machinary but it wasn't unbeatable.
You can't get such a bot in six weeks of building and I seriously doubt you could get one if you built it for years.
There's always a flaw.

Ed I'll second you on that note.

[The Lucas]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

Unbeattable you say?
You can't get such a bot in six weeks of building and I seriously doubt you could get one if you built it for years.
There's always a flaw.

Plus you have a weight limit, size limit and underpowered motors. The closest I think we will ever see in the Alliance era was Beatty '02 (probably CD '98 before that). It scored all 3 goals almost all the time and it was mathematically impossible to beat them if they did. Even they got Fluffied (180) in the finals. There always is a robot, group of robots, or strategy that is your perfect foil.

We will never see an unbeatable bot. The rules and ever-expanding level of competition are stacked against it.

[Joel J]

The closest I would say was 25 in 2006. I don't know if they had an unbeatable robot, but they sure went a long time (2 regionals + a while at nats) before their first loss.

[cool breeze]

Would anyone like to list thier top 5 now that the regional has come and gone.

I will offer my .02 after the fact, I think the SparkX, Moe, 424 and any other team that consistently scored during autonomous mode were ROBBED, they deserved more than 2 pts and probably would have advanced MUCH further in the competition if the pts were higher. Some other good teams showed what they were made of as well. All in all it was a very exciting competition that all teams should feel proud of. Way to go 1511 for the chairmans Award, 2228 for an outstanding showing all the other teams that made this AWESOME!

[Koko Ed]

I thinl it's safe to say no one would have expected alliance 3 to win the whole shebang.
Only 1713 earned remotely any compliments from anyone in the thread beforehand. Which shows you how absolutely useless these kind of threads really are.

[Josh Goodman]

1: 1559
2: 73
3: 424
4: 1713
5: 1126

I think my choices did quite well.

[kevin.li.rit]

Originally Posted by Josh Goodman

I think my choices did quite well.

Didn't 73 and 1126 get knocked out by the 7th seed?

[Tetraman]

Originally Posted by Coffeeism

Didn't 73 and 1126 get knocked out by the 7th seed?

Yea. And first seed was taken out by 8th seed. Very much an overpowering by the underdogs. No one expected it all.

[Josh Goodman]

Eh, they still did well.

[Caseavong]

Originally Posted by Tetraman

Yea. And first seed was taken out by 8th seed. Very much an overpowering by the underdogs. No one expected it all.

That is very true the underdogs did seem to take an upperhand.

[triggerhappy336]

Originally Posted by Tetraman

Yea. And first seed was taken out by 8th seed. Very much an overpowering by the underdogs. No one expected it all.

I think it would've been an interesting 3rd round had our lift worked. Kudos to the 8th seed though. We just couldn't over-score that 2 bot lift.

[jagman2882]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

I thinl it's safe to say no one would have expected alliance 3 to win the whole shebang.
Only 1713 earned remotely any compliments from anyone in the thread beforehand. Which shows you how absolutely useless these kind of threads really are.

listen to this man, he knows what hes talking about!

[Alex Cormier]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

I thinl it's safe to say no one would have expected alliance 3 to win the whole shebang.
Only 1713 earned remotely any compliments from anyone in the thread beforehand. Which shows you how absolutely useless these kind of threads really are.

Who also called 340 and 1713 to be up there?

and i also do agree these thread are crap and useless untill we see what is goign on atleast on practice days...

[macsrbetter36]

Originally Posted by Tetraman

Yea. And first seed was taken out by 8th seed. Very much an overpowering by the underdogs. No one expected it all.

The 8th seed took out the 1st and the 7th seed took out the 2nd seed. All 6 teams on the top seeded alliances were fantastic robots. However, as a team, they did not work together well because they all specialized in the same thing.

(Not to blow our own horn or anything) the reason that alliance 5 (639, 229, 1559) did as well as we did was because we worked well together. We had a bot that was good at scoring, we had a good defense bot, and we had a bot that could lift a robot 12" off the ground every time.

The moral of this story: pick teams based on their abilities, not on their ranking.

[GRaduns340]

Originally Posted by macsrbetter36

The 8th seed took out the 1st and the 7th seed took out the 2nd seed. All 6 teams on the top seeded alliances were fantastic robots. However, as a team, they did not work together well because they all specialized in the same thing.

(Not to blow our own horn or anything) the reason that alliance 5 (639, 229, 1559) did as well as we did was because we worked well together. We had a bot that was good at scoring, we had a good defense bot, and we had a bot that could lift a robot 12" off the ground every time.

The moral of this story: pick teams based on their abilities, not on their ranking.

I disagree with the second seed statement. I think 316, 1126, and 73 was a great alliance that should have gone much farther than they did. I think that alliance was very well selected, just got unlucky in the eliminations. I thoroughly expected that alliance to make it to the finals.