The Niagara Triplets the best team(s) in 2006?

[Cory]

Originally Posted by sw293

25, anybody? They are putting up around 85 points per match at Vegas. Vegas is not a very strong regional, so they are probably scoring most of those points themselves.

Actually, according to everything posted on CD, 987 is a very strong shooter as well.

[Rick TYler]

Originally Posted by Cory

Actually, according to everything posted on CD, 987 is a very strong shooter as well.

Yeah, I'm watching the quarters on Webcast and 987 and 25 are putting on a shooting demonstration. It's not just 25.

[mtaman02]

Well The Niagra Triplets just took GTR by storm well 2/3 of them anyway =) congrads to all the triplets making it to the finals. All I can say is wow - their shooting mechanism and ball catching bin was awesome. Is there anything these girls can't do =)

[sw293]

Originally Posted by Cory

Actually, according to everything posted on CD, 987 is a very strong shooter as well.

Very strong doesn't mean as good as.

Average points from qualifying matches, top 5 teams:
25: 80.45
987: 57.36
585: 47.45
230: 44
79: 42.82

Entire Regional: 30.69

[Cory]

Originally Posted by sw293

Very strong doesn't mean as good as.

Average points from qualifying matches, top 5 teams:
25: 80.45
987: 57.36
585: 47.45
230: 44
79: 42.82

Entire Regional: 30.69

Right...but 25 obviously isn't carrying the alliance when they have a robot that's scoring more by itself than most alliances score in an entire match.

[AGadgetGeek]

Originally Posted by Cory

It could be done. I can't see it happening though.

Another team would probably pick the low seeded one just to keep 3 of them from getting together.

Yep, like we tried to do in Waterloo. They still won though =).

[Starke]

wow, i started the thread and did not say what i thought.

i feel that the Niagara Triplets are very good individual robots. they score quickly and you have to be on them the entire match to stop them. this is very similar to many other teams (254, 111, 1126, 67, 25,...). so, as individual robots they are very good, and partnered together they are nearly unstoppable.

other thoughts?

[sw293]

Originally Posted by Cory

Right...but 25 obviously isn't carrying the alliance when they have a robot that's scoring more by itself than most alliances score in an entire match.

987 is a fine robot and it would not be proper to say they were "carried" to victory on any alliance (please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe I ever said that they were). However, 25 didn't get to play with 987 in every match of qualification where they were dropping 81 per match.

[Michael Leicht]

any videos of these beasts?

[Darkswordsmith]

Wow, those robots look really nice. They're all identical from what i see though, which confuses me--did the team build them together, or is it just a coincidence.

Anyways, i'm not sure about this triplet thing, all they all in one alliance?
Also, if a team qualifies for the nationals in multiple alliances in mutliple regionals, which alliance do they compete in at the nationals?

[Nuttyman54]

Originally Posted by Darkswordsmith

Wow, those robots look really nice. They're all identical from what i see though, which confuses me--did the team build them together, or is it just a coincidence.

Anyways, i'm not sure about this triplet thing, all they all in one alliance?
Also, if a team qualifies for the nationals in multiple alliances in mutliple regionals, which alliance do they compete in at the nationals?

It's my understanding that they were jointly designed by all three teams and built by the indivudual teams.

The alliances in Atlanta are completely new alliances. The 4 divisions are played like regionals and the winning alliances of the divisions go on to play for National Champion.

[JamesBrown]

Originally Posted by Darkswordsmith

Wow, those robots look really nice. They're all identical from what i see though, which confuses me--did the team build them together, or is it just a coincidence.

Anyways, i'm not sure about this triplet thing, all they all in one alliance?
Also, if a team qualifies for the nationals in multiple alliances in mutliple regionals, which alliance do they compete in at the nationals?

For a good description on the design process of the triplets check out this thread, Karthik's posts describe the process and the reasoning behind working together.

[TheNotoriousKid]

its pretty hard to not have a good alliance who have the same robot, know each others strengths and weaknesses, and have strategic moves designed for their alliance. But, is dat not wat every alliance should be, (not the same robot) but teams are suppose to adapt to each other and come up with a winning alliance..........I give it up to them though...........they are out to win......i think they could care less about our criticism or our praise because they are out for the Big W in atlanta with or without eachother.

[Donut]

Who else thinks it would be interesting to see each of these teams as part of 3 different alliances at Nats, and then have them end up having to play each other? Who knows what strategies will be come up with when you know every aspect of one of the opposing robots.

The Triplets are some of the best teams in FIRST, but they are SOME of the best teams. There are many superb teams, but I don't think there is any single "best" team; every team has a weakness I'm willing to bet one other robot in FIRST could beat them with.

[ScoutingNerd175]

Originally Posted by Donut

Who else thinks it would be interesting to see each of these teams as part of 3 different alliances at Nats, and then have them end up having to play each other? Who knows what strategies will be come up with when you know every aspect of one of the opposing robots.

Remembering of course that all three will probably not be in the same division.