Two Chairmans Winners Per Event

[JackN]

It sounds crazy but what if there were two Chairmans Winners at each Event. It would make it so deserving teams have a chance even against dynastic powerhouse chairmans teams like 1002, 1108, 365, 233, and 79. It is just a thought and has anyone else had this thought?

[hoorayforpink]

sounds crazy almost cazy enough to work granted there were two teams prsent who met the standards ofthe chairman's award

[Bharat Nain]

That's not the point. Re-read the Chairmans criteria.

[Joe Matt]

While I understand the reasoning behind it, I disagree. Many Chairmans award winners really don't do much "new" year to year, and are easily toppled (the "winners" syndrome, the idea that you're still the champion, and you get side-swiped). I know that several teams that win chairmans over and over again don't do much, or keep touting the same old stuff over and over again, and there just isn't any real competition to challange them. Then there's the reason for having multipule winners, so they can try again and again to win the Champs. And once they win the champs, they'll be removed from the pool at regionals, allowing for another team.

[santosh]

I personally think that there should be One, but I do think that there should be honorable mentions at the regional level.

[Vu2000]

Honorable mentions would just be too much... I think EI at the regional level is usually thought of as Chairman's runner-up.

[Mike Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Vu2000

Honorable mentions would just be too much... I think EI at the regional level is usually thought of as Chairman's runner-up.

Thats Incorrect, team 25 has recieved the EI award, at a regional the Chairmens was not submitted at

[santosh]

As did 612

[Eugenia Gabrielov]

Originally Posted by Big Mike

Thats Incorrect, team 25 has recieved the EI award, at a regional the Chairmens was not submitted at

I just want to second that by saying other teams have had that happen. I also believe that the honor of the Chairman's Award is the uniqueness of its presentation - a team that can shine above so many deserving candidates is the winner - and recognizing such a team is the entire point of the award.

Besides, if you add two of Chairman's, you have to add 2 of other things to be fair...and that would just make the entire process crazy!

[Vu2000]

Yupp, I'm well aware that there are teams out there that have won EI without submitting a Chairman's Award. I do believe that there should be 1 chairman's award winner, BUT, I don't believe that there is only one deserving of the award. If a team does an exemplary job in their chairman's presentation and such, however, they should be rewarded with the second highest honor first bestows upon a team (EI) and a trip to Nationals. The problem with my statement before was that this situation has too many variables; one being that some regionals have way more submissions than others (i.e SoCal had 12ish this year).

[Madison]

The Chairman's Award and Engineering Inspiration award are separate awards with differing criteria. The Engineering Inspiration award is the second highest honor FIRST bestows upon a team, not a runner up to the Chairman's Award. The difference, however subtle, is important.

[Al Skierkiewicz]

This is a very special award and a special honor. I was happy to see regional awards for both Chairman's and Woodie Flower's as there are many deserving teams out there.
I disagree with the statement that teams don't do that much from year to year. A team who is worthy of the Chairman's award needs to be doing something every year. It is the only way.

[Koko Ed]

There can be only one....

[Natchez]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

There can be only one....

I completely agree!

Please excuse me while I get my soap box off of a root of this beautiful oak tree; ah, that's better.

I believe that we should abolish the Regional Chairman's Award BUT each regional should send as many teams to the Championships based on the entries for the most prestigious award in FIRST award (i.e. Chairman's Award) as we do for the it's not all about the robot award (i.e. Regional Winners). We currently advance 3 for the robot and 1 for the Chairman's to the Championships ... how about at least 3 & 3; on the other hand, maybe if only one advances for the Chairman's then maybe only one should advance for the robot ... how about only the alliance captain of the regional winning alliance advances ... ohhhhhhhhhhh, this would change the thought process behind high seeded teams hooking up together

I like the idea of 105 teams walking around the country telling their schools, communities, and sponsors, "We are one of 3 teams selected at our regional to compete for the Chairman's Award in Atlanta, the most prestigious award in FIRST." rather than 35 teams telling their schools, communities, and sponsors, "We won the regional Chairman's Award; the Chairman's Award is the most prestigious award in FIRST." In summary, there should only be one Chairman's Award that the Chairman of FIRST presents at the Championships and the rest should be called something else.

I realize that my complaining can be seen as purely semantics but my real goal is not semantical at all: To have Chairman's as competitive and celebrated as the robot competition. Ultimately, Chairman's efforts from teams are more responsible for supplying America's workforce with engineers and scientists than building the robot. In the year 2020, hopefully you'll hear comments like, "What do you mean your team does not compete for Chairman's; EVERYONE competes for Chairman's!" Then, in 2050, you'll hear comments akin to, "Oh, we do not have a robot, we are just here competing for the Chairman's Award."

Ed, I'm sorry that I took liberty with your "There can be only one ..." statement but it was a great step onto my soap box. Thank you!

Back to the Nutt Ranch,
Lucien

p.s. I still haven't found any 1/4-20 nuts on the ranch ... just a bunch of white jackets with the arms sewn to the pockets. I did have pecan pie for lunch though; maybe it is that kind of nut farm .

[Ryan Dognaux]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

There can be only one....

This is the truth. The Chairman's Award is the most prestigious award FIRST gives out. There should be only one team that receives this award at the Regional level; for if FIRST begins awarding multiple Chairman's Awards, it will lose its prestigious meaning. The Chairman's Award is seen as that thing that's almost unattainable. It's the pinnacle, the best of the best. If you win it, you're on top of the world, and if you don't, you keep trying because to receive it means you're among the best of the best.

To somehow change that in any way would be doing an injustice to the award. As Ed said, there can be only one.