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Re: Robotics Internationally

FIRST to me is like a technical version of the Boy Scouts. It was started by one man with the vision of molding his day's youth, now spreading to almost every city in the world. I think the number one reason is a lack of Regionals Internationally. After the Canadian Regional, the number of teams practically exploded. Travel cost is a huge budget item so having a near by competition always helps. When your accross the pond, doublly so. Don't forget, there are alot of DoD dependents in Europe so its not like we are turning our back on the good old US of A!
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Re: Robotics Internationally

I don't think we need to worry about splitting resources here. All teams should work on spreading the spirit of FIRST and help new teams start up. For newer teams, that focus should be locally, in areas of need. As teams mature, bigger approaches should be tried. The Team-in-a-Box is a fantastic idea to spread that help globally in a generic fashion. In Old Lyme, the local community is hosting several kids from the West Bank this summer, as it has for a couple of years. Last year we introduced the kids (all girls, by the way) to FLL and demonstrated our FRC bot. We will repeat this tomorrow and will meet with their community leaders to try to get the kids involved in FLL.

The whole concept of the alliance-based competition is so energizing for co-operation between teams and ultimately countries that it is our obligation to spread it around the world. I was a judge at the Tel Aviv Regional this year. The sight of an Arab team's 'bot pushing a Jewish team's bot up the ramp for the extra points conveys this concept more eloquently than any diplomat can.

While FIRST is not about diplomacy, we cannot and should not ignore the social implications of what we do. This is what makes FIRST so worthwhile to myself and others. We 'sell' FIRST to politicians and school officials in the US because of its payback in promoting science and engineering; it is no less attractive to other countries for the same reasons! As Dean said this year, imagine FIRST in all the high schools in the US! And I add, in high schools everywhere!

In terms of promoting the US, sadly the last few years has seen the world looking at us in a more negative light. What more positive thing than FIRST can we bring to the world? So, ultimately, spreading FIRST internationally is helping the US!

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Re: Robotics Internationally

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....... I was a judge at the Tel Aviv Regional this year. The sight of an Arab team's 'bot pushing a Jewish team's bot up the ramp for the extra points conveys this concept more eloquently than any diplomat can.

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That must have been an awesome experience!! Also thanks for the nice perspective on the benefits of international initiatives. Just like many aspects of FIRST the indirect benefits are substantial.

Good luck with your efforts.

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Re: Robotics Internationally

There are many reasons alot of these countries don't participate in FRC

*Firstly although machining is readily available, obtaining parts can be very difficult

* secondly shipping materials from nations that far is immensely expensive. Flying the robot to their closest regional is very very expensive as I'm sure the international teams know.

*timing in order for teams to be able to ship their robots here, the relatively cheap way(by ship) would take about 6 weeks unless these teams chartered private boats just to transport(once again expensive)

Teams in foreign countries with no other teams are at a major disadvantage because they may need support, and phone calls can only go so far.

and lastly to start a team it would require a group of people to go to the location to help set up for an extended period of time. once again extremely expensive. the trip of a life time is only worth so much
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