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View Poll Results: Should I install this hack?
Go for it .. looks cool. 62 49.21%
Don't matter -- "They're just dots." 51 40.48%
It's fine how it is -- don't install. 13 10.32%
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Awww.. The upgraded rep system thanks me for giving rep.

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Awww.. The upgraded rep system thanks me for giving rep.

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He added the new system?
i think he is refering to his signature. but i could be wrong.
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He added the new system?
No, but when you give someone rep, another little window pops up and says "Thanks for giving this person reputation. Hopefully you will be given reputation too", or something like that (I can't remember the exact words ).
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No, but when you give someone rep, another little window pops up and says "Thanks for giving this person reputation. Hopefully you will be given reputation too", or something like that (I can't remember the exact words ).
Yep. Exactly. As in "new system" I meant since the big upgrade of CD.
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Re: Reputation Dots Enhancements

It would be nice to keep The same system for rep points, just add a lot more available "trophies" to be obtained. I think this is much better than basing the score on a single member of the community, as that limits us.
I'm pretty sure the scale of points to dots can be changed as well, so there would be no upper limit. (100 points = 1 dot changes to 1000 points = 1 green dot with need)
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It would be nice to keep The same system for rep points, just add a lot more available "trophies" to be obtained. I think this is much better than basing the score on a single member of the community, as that limits us.
I'm pretty sure the scale of points to dots can be changed as well, so there would be no upper limit. (100 points = 1 dot changes to 1000 points = 1 green dot with need)
What do you mean based on one member of the community?

When Richard added in a nod to Andy Baker, I think he was joking.. A log scale wouldn't have to rely on the score of one member.

As for taking the mean and standard deviation, that would rely on everyone's score I guess, but maybe not in the way you're thinking? Using a distribution is like an automatic way to readjust the point/dot ranges.
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Re: Reputation Dots Enhancements

I took that as being a semi-serious way to introduce the LOG thing... but I really have no Idea. I should rephrase my thought: Having a logarithmic system based on any concrete score would put another upper cap on it, and that is how it works right now, so why change it?
The mean and standard deviation, however, is a very good Idea, and I wasn't thinking about it when I posted. I think it might be hard to impliment though...
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When Richard added in a nod to Andy Baker, I think he was joking.. A log scale wouldn't have to rely on the score of one member.
It's nice to see that someone appreciates a geeky sense of humor.

Logarithmic scaling usually involves normalization to some reference or standard level; e.g., decibels. I figured that Andy Baker would be a pretty good reference for reputation in our community, hence "deciBakers".
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I figured that Andy Baker would be a pretty good reference for reputation in our community, hence "deciBakers".
That means that most anyone could achieve is in tenths of a Baker, seems kind of out of proportion to the real world Baker doesn't it?!?
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seems kind of out of proportion to the real world Baker doesn't it?!?

I'm still trying to find out what the real Baker world is. If anyone else has a clue, feel free to let me know.

... deciBakers. You guys are killin' me.

As for the colors and dots, keep it simple. Pretty colors are nice too.

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You know, now that you mention it so are we...

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ght=andy+baker
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Re: Reputation Dots Enhancements

OK, I'm a geek. My earlier suggestion really was half-serious. I agree with Joel that the reputation dot scale shouldn't be tied to any one CD member; however, I still like the name "deciBaker" to indicate a user's reputation in number-of-dots.

To remove Andy's actual reputation point total from the equation, I proposed this alternate definition of the deciBaker:

dB = 1 + 10*log10(reputation point total / 100)

Number of dots would be equal to the next higher whole number of dB. So a member with up to 100 (positive) reputation points would get one (green) dot. Dots would increase with increasing reputation point total, with each dot successively harder to get than the one before it:

1 dB = 100 rep points
2 db = 125 rep points
3 dB = 160 rep points
4 dB = 200 rep points
5 dB = 250 rep points
6 dB = 315 rep points
7 dB = 400 rep points
8 dB = 500 rep points
9 dB = 630 rep points
10 dB = 800 rep points
11 dB = 1,000 rep points
12 dB = 1,250 rep points
13 dB = 1,600 rep points
14 dB = 2,000 rep points
15 dB = 2,500 rep points
16 dB = 3,150 rep points
17 dB = 4,000 rep points
18 dB = 5,000 rep points
19 dB = 6,300 rep points
20 dB = 8,000 rep points
21 dB = 10,000 rep points
22 dB = 12,500 rep points
23 dB = 16,000 rep points
24 dB = 20,000 rep points
25 dB = 25,000 rep points
etc. (no upper limit)

Under this system, they're not just dots -- they're deciBakers!

And since there would (eventually) be more of them, there would be more styling potential; e.g., cool shapes, pretty colors.
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Re: Reputation Dots Enhancements

Personally, I like the fact that ChiefDelphi has a reputation system. It is excellent at showing which people are "respected members of the community".

However, one of the things that I really like about the current implementation of the reputation system is that it has a maximum displayed reputation that isn't stratospheric. Even relatively new users on ChiefDelphi (like me!) can envision that by making good contributions to the community, they may one day be amongst the set of users on CD that are at the highest displayed level of reputation. New users can also see that good postings are recognized by others. Alas, I think that if the maximum level is either unbounded or so high that it can't be reasonably obtained in a couple years through means other than "voting for friends" then I think the reputation system's ability to "encourage good postings" is somewhat diminished. My personal perspective is that I'm in favor of leaving the reputation bars at their current level.

Another benefit about having a maximum displayed reputation level is that there isn't any competition amongst the "max-reputation" folks to see who has the biggest reputation of all. (Or, if there is, it is at least largely invisible to others!) Even though such competition would surely be a friendly rivalry amongst the high-reputation folks, I'm not sure that there's really any benefit in further distinguishing amongst the "best of the best" on CD.

Similarly, because there is a current maximum displayed level, there's no way for folks to "cheat the system" and surpass the displayed levels of the very "best of the best" on CD who are already maxed out. The very best that somebody could do in "cheating the system" would be to equal the levels of the mainstays on CD. As such, the incentive for a miscreant to employ foul tactics to generate a reputation higher than dlavery or AndyBaker is greatly diminished -- despite one's best attempts, one could only attain the same level, no higher.

I'm in favor of leaving the reputation system with a reasonably attainable "maximum displayed level."

Just my two cents!

--ken, who is somewhat fearful of what kind of impact this post may have on his reputation since it publicly contradicts the perspective of so many of the "best of the best" on CD... Then again, there shouldn't be any reason to worry, these folks all exude gracious professionalism from their very being and definitely would respect a polite, healthy difference of opinion!
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Re: Reputation Dots Enhancements

I don't think the reputation system should allow reputation to be given in the Chit/Chat or general forum threads. It sperates the people who are just nice from the ones who contribute at a higher level.
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