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Disappointed by Kickoff webcast quality

I have to say that I was disappointed by the quality of the Kickoff webcast.

The Kickoff producers seemed to be concentrating more on fancy motion backgrounds (like those clouds that were on the big screen behind the lectern area much of the time). The result, for those of us watching by NASA TV webcast, was that the poor old MPEG (or whatever) encoders providing the Windows Media feed wasted too much precious bandwidth trying to keep up with the ever-changing background images that were behind the speakers.

For me to read the speakers name and title, it took about 2 seconds after it appeared before the static elements in the video stream stabilised enough from a grainy initial image, to one that was actually readable. I was watching at a corporate sponsor's site that should have had plenty of bandwidth on the incoming Internet feed, so I do not believe that bandwidth was an issue that can be used to explain such poor video quality.

Maybe for future FIRST events the producers will remember that not everyone can tune into the NASA TV satellite feed, and so doing without some of the fancy "slick" production that we typically see on game shows, the nightly news, MTV awards ceremonies etc has to be forsaken in order to provide a decent quality live feed for webcast viewers i.e. the lowest common denominator.

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Re: Disappointed by Kickoff webcast quality

At the UHCL kickoff (Clear Lake, Texas), the stream flickered right when they were pulling the curtain down and a few other times in the broadcast... but we still found out about the game and got to listen to the speakers which is what really matters, not having an awesome video stream.
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Re: Disappointed by Kickoff webcast quality

Due to the nasty, rainy weather in Manchester during the kick-off broadcast, there were some momentary drop outs of the uplink which sources both the NASA TV and webast signals. This was unavoidable with the equipment that was deployed at the time.

To prevent any re-occurance of this problem next year, NASA has already completed and submitted a Form 431/"Postponement of Potential Predicaments Predicated Upon Preposterous Precipitation" request to God. Both electronic and hardcopy versions, in triplicate, were submitted (consistent with the requirements of the recently passed "Efficiency and Effectiveness in Third Millenium Astral Communications" Bill, the electronic version was submitted to the new WeatherRequests@iGod.com address). We will inform you of the response once it is received - probably some time around January 5, 2008.

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When watching the background with the tumbling logo elements, the circle kept reminding me of a white life saver (peppermint). Wonder why....
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Re: Disappointed by Kickoff webcast quality

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Due to the nasty, rainy weather in Manchester during the kick-off broadcast, there were some momentary drop outs of the uplink which sources both the NASA TV and webast signals. This was unavoidable with the equipment that was deployed at the time.

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So that is why there were drop outs because after awhile it started to get really annoying
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"Actually, I think it is the other way around - Apple is a product of the Heavens. And since everyone knows that Bill Gates is Satan, it would make sense.."

I always thought DNA looked to proprietary to be open source, yet to simple to be Microsoft.
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Due to the nasty, rainy weather in Manchester during the kick-off broadcast, there were some momentary drop outs of the uplink which sources both the NASA TV and webast signals.
We were sitting in the bleachers near the exits and at one point the rain was coming down so hard you could hear it pounding on the roof. (Reminded me of Atlanta two years ago when you could hear it inside the Dome!) However, when we exited the building the sun was shining and it was nearly 70 degrees!
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Re: Disappointed by Kickoff webcast quality

There was a high-quality NASA feed (something like 1200Kbps vs the normal 300Kbps). It was wonderful for the first hour or so (watching on a 27" TV looked just like a normal TV station), but then it cut out just as the kickoff started to get interesting!

I don't have the link off the top of my head, but if you Google around a bit I think you could find it.
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Re: Disappointed by Kickoff webcast quality

I was actually at the Kickoff, so there were no flickers or anything. One of our mentors recorded Kickoff and we rewatched part of it, including the part when they revealed the rack.

That's so disappointing! The best and most dramatic part of Kickoff was ruined!

Well... NASA does do a lot for FIRST, so we can't really hold it against them. The past years have had no problems.
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Re: Disappointed by Kickoff webcast quality

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Re: Disappointed by Kickoff webcast quality

If I remember right NASA began webcasting in 1999 with the SV Regional, and has webcast every kickoff and every championship plus several regional events every year. This is before anyone else had even heard of webcasting and most connectivity was over 28kbaud dial ups. NASA provides this service to FIRST at no cost to FIRST - it would be many 100Ks to purchase this service commercially. I know Dave and others have to sweat blood to get these events to work. If It wasn't for the webcasting/broadcasting of the kickoff there is no way FIRST would have grown from 7 to 37 regional and from 300 to 1300 teams in 8 years. I happened to be able to get both the cable and webcast at my home, and other than the 45 second buffering delay, I though the webcast was peachy keen.

So if you were really serious about unsung heros, talk about the NASA Contractors and Civil servants that bust their chops making sure you get media.
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Re: Disappointed by Kickoff webcast quality

I think most annoying was when the decryption key was displayed for only a few seconds at a time. A flyby of the field was cool, but we just wanted that key!
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