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Unread 08-03-2007, 19:22
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The Crab Challenge

Well, here we go again...
I'm assuming you've all submitted your Inventor award submissions already, and are probably looking for something to do with your mad CAD skillage. So I'm issuing a challenge: Design a crab drive. This is a very complex thing to do in Inventor, and I'd like to see which teams can come up with a plausible design. The "submission" shall be two renders: One of an individual module, the other of the frame with modules onboard. There won't really be a single winner, just us giving props to designs that seem possible.

Go for creativity! You could go with a traditional crab, or you could go with a coaxial. You could even think up something new!

Adding onto the theme of time limits that FIRST gives us, lets set a deadline: Two weeks, or on the 22nd. All designs should be posted by then, and then we can begin to examine the details (plus this thread will serve as a good inspiration point for teams wishing to try out a crab).

So fire up Inventor!
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Unread 08-03-2007, 19:28
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Re: The Crab Challenge

and what is the prize??
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Re: The Crab Challenge

Bragging rights, and having something pre designed before the upcoming season. (yes, there's always an upcoming season, no matter when it is!)
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Re: The Crab Challenge

Where do we post these pictures. Want us to upload to the CD galleries and then link to it from this thread?
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Unread 08-03-2007, 19:42
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Re: The Crab Challenge

That sounds good, or just attach them to the thread. As long as we can get to it from here, it doesn't matter too much.
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Unread 08-03-2007, 22:18
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Re: The Crab Challenge

mines already posted from awhile ago and were using an iteration of it
3-speed shift on the fly swerve +coaxial
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Unread 08-03-2007, 22:43
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Re: The Crab Challenge

The point of the challenge was to have those who are interested design a new one. I also have about 3 designed, but for the sake of the challenge, I'll be designing a very very, VERY different one.
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Re: The Crab Challenge

You mean a swerve drive?
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Unread 08-03-2007, 23:19
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Re: The Crab Challenge

The difference between the two is negligable in relation to the contest, so design whichever you think is more fun/challenging!
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Unread 09-03-2007, 01:59
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Re: The Crab Challenge

My first attempt at a crab drive was unsuccessful. The idea was to use as many off-the-shelf parts as possible to save time machining. Although I had some innovative ideas, the design was ultimately too heavy and required to many chains.



Our team basically abandoned the idea even before the season started.

However, after being inspired by 118's crab drive (they were next to us in Atlanta) I took another shot at coaxials.





Although the modules themselves look nothing like 118's, the chain-system and frame are very similar. I haven’t CAD'd the frame, so no pic...

The modules themselves are made from single pieces of U-channel, which eliminates the challenge of machining 5 bolted side-plates. By using two wheels I also eliminated the chain (which in the original design had no method of tensioning). And by eliminating the chain I made the modules much shorter.

Specs:
-5" wide
-4.5" tall (base of wheel to top of module)
-4" wheels

I'm going to machine these over summer-vacation so stay tuned for another pic!
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Re: The Crab Challenge

I am going to model a full version of a crab drive that i have designed.. Just not right this second
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Re: The Crab Challenge

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Slick. You might need a hoss steering system to drag the dual wheels around, but I like that you got rid of the the extra chain stage that we have, although we do use that stage for an additional gear reduction.
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Re: The Crab Challenge

Well, here's my submission. I went with a different kind of crab, one that I haven't seen before. In this one, I attempted to limit or entirely remove the issue of wires binding when routed through a pipe on the top.
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Well, here's my submission. I went with a different kind of crab, one that I haven't seen before. In this one, I attempted to limit or entirely remove the issue of wires binding when routed through a pipe on the top.
Looks somewhat similar to 1625's crab this year... though they didn't include the motor in the bearing like you did, it was mounted above the assembly.
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Re: The Crab Challenge

I don't have a submission, but I'd like to thank everyone that does. We made a drive train using Dewalt drill heads for gearboxes this season, but I'm planning on playing around with a swerve drive over the summer and hopefully designing and putting together my own, so now I get a head start. Yay!
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