biggest threat in atlanta

[TheNotoriousKid]

Originally Posted by Gabe

Biggest threat in Atlanta? Lightning.

he has a point.........that would shut down any bot........no matter how good you are.....lol

[Nawaid Ladak]

people are worried about an alliance of 1114 and 330 in Curie, but i think i came up with a even worse alliance,
...From Galileo
2056+25+84, thats the alliance thats my worst fear right now, 2056 and 25 can attack from ANYWHERE on the field, and 84 has the pushing power to knock defenders out of their way.

people are ranting about 1114 but no one is talking about their latest product thanks to mentoring, 2056. in my opinion, they are clearly one of the elite teams in Galileo, the shouldn't be ranked lower than 5.

25 is always good, they have potential, all they need is the right alliance

84 has that infinity drive train giving them all the pushing power they need, if they clear up some room for these 2 other offensive machines, they can possibly slice through the Galileo division eliminations like butter.

Thats what the people and teams in Galileo should be afraid of

[Andy Baker]

Originally Posted by FreedomForce

but i think i came up with a even worse alliance, ...From Galileo 2056+25+84

Galileo is so deep, there could be 3-4 similar alliances that are as strong as this one... all with different teams.

Andy B.

[Ashley Weed]

Originally Posted by FreedomForce

people are worried about an alliance of 1114 and 330 in Curie, but i think i came up with a even worse alliance,
...From Galileo
2056+25+84, thats the alliance thats my worst fear right now, 2056 and 25 can attack from ANYWHERE on the field, and 84 has the pushing power to knock defenders out of their way.

people are ranting about 1114 but no one is talking about their latest product thanks to mentoring, 2056. in my opinion, they are clearly one of the elite teams in Galileo, the shouldn't be ranked lower than 5.

25 is always good, they have potential, all they need is the right alliance

84 has that infinity drive train giving them all the pushing power they need, if they clear up some room for these 2 other offensive machines, they can possibly slice through the Galileo division eliminations like butter.

Thats what the people and teams in Galileo should be afraid of

Thanks, for the kind words.

[rhoads2234]

*biased*
I think that 2234 is a great defense bot we can push the rack without trying to and have stopped any scoring in sevral matches!

[OZ_341]

Originally Posted by FreedomForce

84 has that infinity drive train giving them all the pushing power they need, if they clear up some room for these 2 other offensive machines, they can possibly slice through the Galileo division eliminations like butter.

Thats what the people and teams in Galileo should be afraid of

84 kept everyone off of the rack so that 341 and 181 could put up lots of tubes.

We lost one elimination match on our way to the Philly Championship. That was the match that 84 didn't move.

Chuck 84 is awesome!!

[Tottanka]

An alliance between 2056 and 1114 will be very dangerous and its hard for me to imagine how stron those teams will be with a good ramp\defence robot if 1114 take of their ramps and get even a better drivetrain that would just be very very dangerous...
if they get 176 i cant see anyone beating them...

A great team from israel is 1574

VCU its the awkward turtles (2108), along with 116 and 1610

team buzz are also a very got machine as always...

25, 233,330 are also amazing.

[MasterChief 573]

A team to look out for is 85, they have a really cool elevator arm and it is very affective at scoring, although they aren't the most successful team as of now they have the potential to be a real power house.

[Tottanka]

Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman

2 Defense + 1 awesome scorer. Everyone thinks defensive-minded alliances can't score tubes. Purge that thought from your heads. Also purge the thought that all defensive robots have to play defense all the time - they don't. Some do; many don't.

Ramps aren't nullified if you hold a defensively-created rack score advantage at the beginning of endgame.

Again, we'll see. I challenge some of the big scorers to consider the possibilities of participating in a defensive alliance as an option as opposed to the "drown 'em in offense" alliance strategy - which is "nothing new".

you should see the Israeli regional winning alliance between 1574,1657 and 1950...
1574 was the best scorer of the regional only probem wsa it wasnt too hard to block.

therefore 1950 and 1657 simlpy stood and didnt let any opposing robot pass to their own half of the field, eaqch one blocking a different side of the rack and letting 1574 scoring 5-6 tubes on 2 hights, sometimes even 7 tubes and 40 seconds to the end 1950 lifting 1657 on their ramps giving 30 points more...that has simply worked every time they used this strategy...dont know if it will work in Atlanta in a match Vs. good scoring alliance but its not a bad option...
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[Jonathan Norris]

There has been alot of discussion about how good teams like 1114, 330 have been this year... but have a look at the divison they are in!

you got 67, 121, 126 the best of the best roller claw teams (only missing 100). The great advantage of the roller claw is how easy it is to pick up with defense, its great for the elimination rounds so watch out for these three.

Then you got even more great scorers in this division; 195, 118, 176, 357, 365, 469, 1305(these are the ones i know of...)

Then you got great ramps: 180, 48, 469, and many more.

Even more great D! 48, 1305, 830, 716, and more.

1114 and 330 will be lucky to even get out of their own division... though it may be easier together. It will all come down to alliance picking, thats where the champs are won and lost, great teams are nothing without great alliances.

edit: Alex made a great point earlier that I would like to remind everyone of....

Originally Posted by Alex Cormier

Also once again, another popularity contest thread where you see the big named teams and of course the posts about your own team, oh when will CD learn to stop this?

[Joel J]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Norris

There has been alot of discussion about how good teams like 1114, 330 have been this year... but have a look at the divison they are in!

you got 67, 121, 126 the best of the best roller claw teams (only missing 100). The great advantage of the roller claw is how easy it is to pick up with defense, its great for the elimination rounds so watch out for these three.

Then you got even more great scorers in this division; 195, 118, 176, 357, 365, 469, 1305(these are the ones i know of...)

Then you got great ramps: 180, 48, 469, and many more.

Even more great D! 48, 1305, 830, 716, and more.

1114 and 330 will be lucky to even get out of their own division... though it may be easier together. It will all come down to alliance picking, thats where the champs are won and lost, great teams are nothing without great alliances.

edit: Alex made a great point earlier that I would like to remind everyone of....

I agree.. they'll do well, but only if they select the correct alliance, and then execute their (properly selected) strategy very well each time they go up to bat. Same goes for everyone else. Once the robots are refined, the alliance is as good as can be had, given seeding, its then all about the doing.. and the question would be, "are you doing the right thing?"

[nparikh]

Originally Posted by Joel J.

I agree.. they'll do well, but only if they select the correct alliance, and then execute their (properly selected) strategy very well each time they go up to bat. Same goes for everyone else. Once the robots are refined, the alliance is as good as can be had, given seeding, its then all about the doing.. and the question would be, "are you doing the right thing?"

You're absolutely right. Even an alliance with the three best robots ever built will not win against the next three if strategy isn't played out properly. In the end, its about dealing with what you have and playing to your strengths and against the opponent's weaknesses--even if that means changing up strategies between matches or on the fly.

[JackN]

The other big threat is the 4-5-6 seeds. These are the most likely to win each division (except Galileo). If I am 4-5-6 I get the last of the elite teams and usually the last of the good teams for my partners. Lets say were on Galileo, 469 seeds fourth, picks 234 (Yes I think they still will be there) and then picks 60/1270/any other good team for their third partner. The second pick will be better than any that 1114/330 can get for their third partner. I excluded Galileo because the field is the deepest I have ever seen for a division. There is a good chance they will have three really good robots.

[Rich Ross]

Its extremely presumptuous to say what division is and isnt deep. Some robots will perform better than they did in regionals, some will perform worse. Our job is to scout and use strategy to our advantage.

That said, the teams that fly under the radar, silently winning matches in ninja-like style will be the ones that end up on top. Let the "elite teams" beat each other up. Let 2056 and 1114 get double and triple teamed. The teams that aren't hyped up, but which are still good, are the ones that will show up on Einstein.

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by Andy Baker

Galileo is so deep, there could be 3-4 similar alliances that are as strong as this one... all with different teams.

Absolutely agreed. Using the same 2-scorer, 1-defender model:
56, 45, 703
217, 503, 488
1251, 229, 294
1126, 1902, 379
etc. etc. etc.