Best/Strangest Defense Techniques

[Brian J. R.]

Originally Posted by Chris Marra

-Breaking the field to force a match reset.

(Yes it happened, but I'm sure not intentionally.)

That happened in Las Vegas, interestingly enough, it was a pretty good autonomous round for our alliance.

[danshaffer]

Originally Posted by Brian J. R.

That happened in Las Vegas, interestingly enough, it was a pretty good autonomous round for our alliance.

yeah, the break was not intentional. if you guys watched all of the other qualifyings, we were just driving forward and swinging our arm over. that autonomous was written after lunch on saturday, and modified between matches. i was pretty hopeful that we'd get to play that one over, because that 1425 ringer was too sweet. oh well, you guys had us outclassed.

[gblake]

Originally Posted by danshaffer

-parking two bots in homezone to prevent ramp climb (or maybe the radios died. Vegas qf #4 vs #5???? what happened here???? )

It appeared to be a Field Malfunction - Radios went out on both of those bots. As you saw, the fog horn was not blown.

That was not intentional. If our alliance had not been penalized for those two bots that were waiting to hear from an operator, we almost certainly would have won the match and gone on to play a 3rd QF match to decide which alliance would have advanced.

Blake

[robotguru1717]

The best strategy that our team came up with is for ramp/lift bots like ours. We like to call it offensive Defense. There are times when your alliance is up against killer ring placers...ones that can get a ringer under heavy defense and all! Instead of trying to race around the rack trying to beat them (which you can't do) cap the ends of the rack. In SD most commonly the center spider was what was fought over and so try and place ringers on the center level on opposite sides so that the max row horizontally a team can get is 3 or 4 which makes it so that a 60 point lift wins the match every time! Good Luck

-Martin
Team 1717 D'Penguineers

[hayakuneko]

ahaha the field reset. I remember I think it was SD, team 294 had their arm working and this one time they just drove by the siderail of the field and they turned the robot around and knocked over the radio tower. the refs paused the game for a few min until the fixed that and then they just said "go" casually and everyone continued driving again...

i think the best technique is to make the other alliance think they're keeping u from a lift by keeping u on their side when you're actually keeping them from lifting.

[AdamHeard]

Originally Posted by hayakuneko

ahaha the field reset. I remember I think it was SD, team 294 had their arm working and this one time they just drove by the siderail of the field and they turned the robot around and knocked over the radio tower. the refs paused the game for a few min until the fixed that and then they just said "go" casually and everyone continued driving again...

that was a fun match. I was so surprised they just let us keep going.

i think the best technique is to make the other alliance think they're keeping u from a lift by keeping u on their side when you're actually keeping them from lifting.

Hey hey hey.... you don't have to keep rubbing it in .

It was a brilliant strategy though, especially us keeping beachbots from getting back in the 1st match cemented our win... It was natural to think I was doing it again... Well, its true what they say about strategy I guess.

[pakratt1991]

I drove for my team at UC Davis,
We did "body Guard"
and teams tried to knock over rings in our home zone, but we cleared them, that has never worked, also teams tried to park against our side to stop our ramp from deploying, also that did not work, we deployed and one side fell down, that side got lifted, when they moved the other side fell down and we lifted that side also.

I've also seen teams just get in front of the rack on the opponents side and block teams from scoring, although I don't know how effective that was.

[CyberWolf_22]

I am personally a fan of trying to shake the rack enough so the other alliance can't score. Doing this in autonomous mode is even better.

[efoote868]

Be wary, though. 829 does this, and at BMR, they got stuck. Spent pretty much the rest of the match trying to unstick themselves.

[IndySam]

Originally Posted by efoote868

Be wary, though. 829 does this, and at BMR, they got stuck. Spent pretty much the rest of the match trying to unstick themselves.

We run up and smack a spider foot, back up and do it again. Makes the entire rack really start swinging. We call it "Smack the Rack" defense and it was pretty effective until we got stuck in the Quarter finals

The foot went in the gap in our ramp and actually got stuck on the bar that runs between the lift cams. Our driver worked for over a minute to get unstuck and finally with a push from our Puerto Rican friends managed to get us free.

BTW That gap will no longer be there at The Championship.

[Brandon Holley]

Team 1975 is a ramp bot without a drive train. They flip over in the beginning of the match and wait for their partners to drive up them. We played them in one of our qualifiers. While we were tubing, we had our partners go attempt to push them out of the home zone, considering once they were out they most likely couldnt get back in. Moral of the story was...they were unmovable...I believe we still won the match tho.

[Alpha 997]

Originally Posted by danshaffer

-knocking over all of the ringers in opponent's homezone to prevent ramp deployment.

Teams tried that on us. Didn't work haha. It takes like 2 seconds to clear them out.

[vivek16]

well some of the arm bots were arm heavy so we just spun their light side

we got between them and the rack and we also had a big tarp thing to keep them from scoring from over us.

who knew castor bots could be so powerful?

vivek

[nuggetsyl]

Originally Posted by Stephi Rae

Just curious...

What are some of the best or strangest defensive techniques that have been seen this year?

ones that win

there is not one way of winning

[DanDon]

Originally Posted by nuggetsyl

ones that win

there is not one way of winning

Whatever strategy helps my alliance most

Seriously, there are so many ways to win this year that there is no best strategy, it's all based on the robots that are in play and on the situation out on the field.