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Interesting, almost no inpicking among the top 8
Yep, only happened once. And the highest seed not picked was 14. Lots of people picking lower seeds.
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Any word on Curie?
Ahh the webcast is too blurry... 1732 picked 67 first thats about all i can see.


edit: this is what i got so far:
1. 1732 67
2. 330 910 (i think)
3. 195 121
4. 1305 176

just saw 1114 get 118 in the second round, dont know who they got first.
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Oh man, 118's acceptance was one for the books!
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Oh man, 118's acceptance was one for the books!
What'd they say? The Curie webcast is a silent movie at the moment
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Re: Nats Alliances

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Curie's Alliances

#1 - 1732 - 67 - 48
#2 - 338 - 918 - 1270
#3 - 195 - 121 - 126
#4 - 1305 - 176 - 2166
#5 - 1114 - 469 - 1523
#6 - 2054 - 558 - 365
#7 - 1706 - 234 - 118
#8 - 2165 - 60 - 1087

Disclaimer: Some of the numbers are a bit fuzzy. If I have a digit off, please don't kill me.
Yeah, change 338 => 330 and 1706 => 1700 and that's accurate I think.
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Re: Nats Alliances

Did anyone see what the field fault was in Final 2 of Curie? I was watching the webcast and didn't see anything wrong.
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Did anyone see what the field fault was in Final 2 of Curie? I was watching the webcast and didn't see anything wrong.
My Enquiring mind wants to know too.
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I made a few calls, no one seems to know...if you have someone on those teams, ask them. I'm sure they were told.
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I made a few calls, no one seems to know...if you have someone on those teams, ask them. I'm sure they were told.
No one down there's answering their phones. Guess we'll just have to wait....
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Re: Nats Alliances

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Did anyone see what the field fault was in Final 2 of Curie? I was watching the webcast and didn't see anything wrong.
I just talked to one of the drivers from team 330. Apparently even they weren't told what the field fault was. Maybe we'll need to get one of the field refs to truly explain what happened.

But I have my own personal speculation. In "fake" finals match 2, team 910 rested the keeper right on top of the spider leg as autonomous mode expired, but didn't release it. One of the referees came out and removed the keeper before manual mode started. However, in the very next match ("real" finals match 2), 910 again rested a keeper in scoring position on the spider leg as autonomous mode expired, but again failed to release it. This time it was counted.

My thought is that maybe, in "fake" finals match 2, the refs misinterpreted the rules regarding the scoring of keepers in autonomous mode. They determined that they inadvertantly had given the other alliance an unfair advantage and decided to replay the match. I don't know. It's just a brainstorm.
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As far as Finals Match 2, I, too, have not heard the official ruling as to why the match was replayed, but <T17> certainly gives the referees the authority to initiate a replay, if a justifiable reason can be presented.
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I just talked to one of the drivers from team 330. Apparently even they weren't told what the field fault was. Maybe we'll need to get one of the field refs to truly explain what happened.

But I have my own personal speculation. In "fake" finals match 2, team 910 rested the keeper right on top of the spider leg as autonomous mode expired, but didn't release it. One of the referees came out and removed the keeper before manual mode started. However, in the very next match ("real" finals match 2), 910 again rested a keeper in scoring position on the spider leg as autonomous mode expired, but again failed to release it. This time it was counted.

My thought is that maybe, in "fake" finals match 2, the refs misinterpreted the rules regarding the scoring of keepers in autonomous mode. They determined that they inadvertantly had given the other alliance an unfair advantage and decided to replay the match. I don't know. It's just a brainstorm.
http://www.soap.circuitrunners.com/2...ur_fm2_BAD.wmv

I think it's clear from the video that 910's keeper is not scored according to any interpretation of the rules. I would expect to hear another reason as to why the match was replayed.
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The reason the match was replayed was because one of the referees thought that the score was wrong on the board a few minutes after the match.
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I think it's clear from the video that 910's keeper is not scored according to any interpretation of the rules. I would expect to hear another reason as to why the match was replayed.
Very true; I stand corrected. I guess I thought, the first time I watched it, that 910 had gotten the keeper past the stinger. Obviously that wasn't the case.
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