Go to Post I guess you really do learn something new everytime you go to a FIRST competition. - Elgin Clock [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > General Forum > FIRST E-Mail Blast Archive
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 16-11-2007, 21:58
Madison's Avatar
Madison Madison is offline
Dancing through life...
FRC #0488 (Xbot)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Rookie Year: 1999
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 5,243
Madison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond repute
Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FIRST Announces PTC Collaboration Software Sponsorship!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Fairbank View Post
The main contact for our team sent me the project manager login credentials this morning; seems like the registration didn't take very long. So I logged in and added my e-mail address to the list of members, but I haven't yet gotten a reply in the 12 hours since then. I've tried since then with a couple other e-mail addresses, but nothing has come through (yes, I did check the spam bin). Has anyone been successful at adding other people to their projects? (Or do they maybe have some sort of script that sends out all the queued e-mails in the middle of the night?)

I'm somewhat disappointed that PTC isn't providing support for CAD versioning of Solidworks and other softwares. According to the literature, they produce plug-ins for Inventor and Solidworks (and Unigraphics, Catia, etc.) but are only providing the Inventor one free of charge. I guess it wouldn't be a sound business decision, though, to pass up the opportunity to influence thousands of potential future customers into using Pro/ENGINEER.
I was able to invite add'l members to the project this afternoon and they successfully signed up and were able to log in. Did you "start" the project? I recall reading somewhere a step-by-step guide that called for "starting" the project before inviting new members. I don't know what the distinction is, really, but I followed those steps and it worked.

I'm also upset that they haven't yet made a Solidworks plug-in available. I downloaded the provided copy of Pro/E and have been playing around with it a bit and all that's done is remind me how much I despise Pro/E. I think this has a great feature set, but it's not so great that it's going to get me to switch all of my work over to Pro/E -- especially since my job uses Solidworks and that makes it much easier to sneak in other work during the downtime. Pro/E is clearly different and just confuses everyone.
__________________
--Madison--

...down at the Ozdust!

Like a grand and miraculous spaceship, our planet has sailed through the universe of time. And for a brief moment, we have been among its many passengers.

Last edited by Madison : 16-11-2007 at 22:20.
Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 16-11-2007, 22:12
Pat Fairbank's Avatar
Pat Fairbank Pat Fairbank is offline
Circuit Breaker
FRC #0254 (The Cheesy Poofs)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 2,132
Pat Fairbank has a reputation beyond reputePat Fairbank has a reputation beyond reputePat Fairbank has a reputation beyond reputePat Fairbank has a reputation beyond reputePat Fairbank has a reputation beyond reputePat Fairbank has a reputation beyond reputePat Fairbank has a reputation beyond reputePat Fairbank has a reputation beyond reputePat Fairbank has a reputation beyond reputePat Fairbank has a reputation beyond reputePat Fairbank has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via MSN to Pat Fairbank
Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FIRST Announces PTC Collaboration Software Sponsorship!

Quote:
Originally Posted by M. Krass View Post
I was able to invite add'l members to the project his afternoon and they successfully signed up and were able to log in. Did you "start" the project? I recall reading somewhere a step-by-step guide that called for "starting" the project before inviting new members. I don't know what the distinction is, really, but I followed those steps and it worked.
Thanks, that did the trick. No sooner did I "start" it than I got three e-mails in my inbox.
__________________
Patrick Fairbank
Team 254 | Mentor (2012-)
Team 1503 | Mentor (2007-2011)
Team 296 | Alumnus (2001-2004) | Mentor (2005-2006)

patfairbank.com
Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-11-2007, 13:35
yarb65 yarb65 is offline
Coach
AKA: T Bray
FRC #3189 (Circuit Breakers)
Team Role: Coach
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: El Dorado, CA
Posts: 85
yarb65 has a spectacular aura aboutyarb65 has a spectacular aura about
Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FIRST Announces PTC Collaboration Software Sponsorship!

To use ProE must you be hooked up to a network server. I tried to use it at home after using it at school yesterday. It will not work. I live in the woods. Dial up only.
__________________
2013 Sacramento Regional Winner (3189,701,2489))
2012 Israel Regional Winner (1662,1690,1937)
2008 Sacramento Regional Winner (1662,115,2122)
2006 Sacramento Regional Winner (1662,852,1726)
Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-11-2007, 13:45
JBotAlan's Avatar
JBotAlan JBotAlan is offline
Forever chasing the 'bot around
AKA: Jacob Rau
FRC #5263
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: Riverview, MI
Posts: 723
JBotAlan has a reputation beyond reputeJBotAlan has a reputation beyond reputeJBotAlan has a reputation beyond reputeJBotAlan has a reputation beyond reputeJBotAlan has a reputation beyond reputeJBotAlan has a reputation beyond reputeJBotAlan has a reputation beyond reputeJBotAlan has a reputation beyond reputeJBotAlan has a reputation beyond reputeJBotAlan has a reputation beyond reputeJBotAlan has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to JBotAlan Send a message via Yahoo to JBotAlan
Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FIRST Announces PTC Collaboration Software Sponsorship!

So this entire service is on the Internet? If so, that would make it pretty much useless for us--we're in a GM facility without access to the Web (at least without great difficulty) during a meeting.
__________________
Aren't signatures a bit outdated?
Reply With Quote
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 17-11-2007, 23:19
Madison's Avatar
Madison Madison is offline
Dancing through life...
FRC #0488 (Xbot)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Rookie Year: 1999
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 5,243
Madison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond reputeMadison has a reputation beyond repute
Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FIRST Announces PTC Collaboration Software Sponsorship!

Quote:
Originally Posted by yarb65 View Post
To use ProE must you be hooked up to a network server. I tried to use it at home after using it at school yesterday. It will not work. I live in the woods. Dial up only.
I installed Pro/E locally on my laptop -- in fact, the schools edition provided must be installed locally -- and have had no trouble running it at all, even without an internet connection.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JBotAlan View Post
So this entire service is on the Internet? If so, that would make it pretty much useless for us--we're in a GM facility without access to the Web (at least without great difficulty) during a meeting.
Pro/E itself will be installed and run locally, but Windchill is a hosted content management solution, so in this case, it's hosted out on the internet by PTC. You wouldn't be able to get to it from within your site, it seems.
__________________
--Madison--

...down at the Ozdust!

Like a grand and miraculous spaceship, our planet has sailed through the universe of time. And for a brief moment, we have been among its many passengers.
Reply With Quote
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 18-11-2007, 12:11
yarb65 yarb65 is offline
Coach
AKA: T Bray
FRC #3189 (Circuit Breakers)
Team Role: Coach
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: El Dorado, CA
Posts: 85
yarb65 has a spectacular aura aboutyarb65 has a spectacular aura about
Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FIRST Announces PTC Collaboration Software Sponsorship!

I finally got it to work. Needed to tweek my computer a little.
__________________
2013 Sacramento Regional Winner (3189,701,2489))
2012 Israel Regional Winner (1662,1690,1937)
2008 Sacramento Regional Winner (1662,115,2122)
2006 Sacramento Regional Winner (1662,852,1726)
Reply With Quote
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 18-11-2007, 16:44
Don Wright's Avatar
Don Wright Don Wright is offline
Registered User
FRC #0469
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: Livonia, MI
Posts: 683
Don Wright has a reputation beyond reputeDon Wright has a reputation beyond reputeDon Wright has a reputation beyond reputeDon Wright has a reputation beyond reputeDon Wright has a reputation beyond reputeDon Wright has a reputation beyond reputeDon Wright has a reputation beyond reputeDon Wright has a reputation beyond reputeDon Wright has a reputation beyond reputeDon Wright has a reputation beyond reputeDon Wright has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via MSN to Don Wright Send a message via Yahoo to Don Wright
Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FIRST Announces PTC Collaboration Software Sponsorship!

I finally got the information and had a chance to play with it a little today. Going to get some of the students to play with it a bit too and see if it's something we can use...

As for using SolidWorks... I just created new parts in WindChill and used the Solidworks parts as reference. Yes, you can't use the built in Windchill viewer/editor...but it still seems to work...

While the structure seems good as a project manager, it seems cumbersome to me (at this point) for dealing with sub-assemblies, etc...

Also, and maybe I've missed it, but the documentation falls into the usual pitfall of technical documentation. It lacks the 30,000 feet view of how the software is supposed to work all together with schedules, ProE, Mathcad, etc... It immediately goes right into specifics and totally lacks the philosophy behind how the software was designed and set-up for a project...

I still am playing around and am not giving up yet... But, if someone has found this overview document, please let me know.

I really appreciate the tool and am happy they are donating the resources to FIRST, but if it takes teams a fair amount of time to know how the system works and how to set their project up, it won't be used.
__________________
Donald F. Wright Jr.
Product Manager
AVL Instrumentation & Test Systems, Inc.
Reply With Quote
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 20-11-2007, 17:43
PTC_FRC PTC_FRC is offline
Registered User
no team
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Canada
Posts: 57
PTC_FRC is on a distinguished road
Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FIRST Announces PTC Collaboration Software Sponsorship!

Hi all,

Thanks for your interest in ProjectLink for your FRC team. I am happy to answer questions you have on the use of ProjectLink, Pro/E and Mathcad.

Many of you had asked about the number of licenses being provided. We are offering each member of your team a license of Pro/E and Mathcad. These are node locked licenses and are tied to the local machine. You do not need to access a license server. You only need to be connected to the internet to generate the license. Once the license is created, you no longer need to have access to the internet.

As for the use of Pro/E and Mathcad, I can understand the challenge of moving from a known system to a new one. We have tried to assist in this effort by providing ample training via the web-based training portal. This is available at http://first.ptculms.com. User can register for this portal and take web-based training modules for Pro/E (modeling, assemblies, mechanism, Sheetmetal, detailing, etc) and Mathcad.

ProjectLink is a web-based project management system. It allows users to conduct design reviews, hold meetings, discussions forums for the teams, manage the history and revisions of documents and CAD data, notification and routing of documents, project planning, etc. We have included a number of training modules for ProjectLink in the training portal listed above.

As for managing CAD data, ProjectLink can manage many types of CAD data. For this year’s competition, we will be providing the ability to manage native Pro/E and Inventor data. Solidworks can be managed in ProjectLink, but we do not offer the work group manager (WGM) that would connect Solidworks to ProjectLink. This will be something we can consider for next year. If the WGM is not available for your application, you can still take advantage of ProjectLink. In this case, you can store the data as a zipped file into ProjectLink. This file will be controlled and versioned. Users will be able to check-out the document (zip file), disallowing anyone else to update it until the user checked in back in. Each check-in will iterate the file keeping past iterations for future design variations.

These projects have been setup for your team. The goal of ProjectLink is to unite your team members in an environment that they can conduct the design of their robots. Since this is available on the web, users regardless of where they are located can work individually or together. I will be providing a small video showing many of the ways team members can work together. I will be sending this out shortly.

If you have further questions, please let me know. My contact email is mfischer@ptc.com or firstsupport@ptc.com

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Mark Fischer
Director – PTC Education
Reply With Quote
  #9   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 04-12-2007, 12:11
Mark McLeod's Avatar
Mark McLeod Mark McLeod is offline
Just Itinerant
AKA: Hey dad...Father...MARK
FRC #0358 (Robotic Eagles)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Hauppauge, Long Island, NY
Posts: 8,825
Mark McLeod has a reputation beyond reputeMark McLeod has a reputation beyond reputeMark McLeod has a reputation beyond reputeMark McLeod has a reputation beyond reputeMark McLeod has a reputation beyond reputeMark McLeod has a reputation beyond reputeMark McLeod has a reputation beyond reputeMark McLeod has a reputation beyond reputeMark McLeod has a reputation beyond reputeMark McLeod has a reputation beyond reputeMark McLeod has a reputation beyond repute
**FIRST EMAIL**/PTC Online Workshop

Greetings Teams:

PTC has developed a workshop for teams on how to use Windchill. Please go to http://www.ptc.com/appserver/wcms/replay/index.jsp?im_dbkey=63530&icg_dbkey=362 to view now!

Go Teams!
__________________
"Rationality is our distinguishing characteristic - it's what sets us apart from the beasts." - Aristotle
Reply With Quote
  #10   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-12-2007, 12:05
yoyodyne yoyodyne is offline
Registered User
AKA: Greg Smith
FRC #0116 (Epsilon Delta)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: Reston, VA
Posts: 61
yoyodyne is a splendid one to beholdyoyodyne is a splendid one to beholdyoyodyne is a splendid one to beholdyoyodyne is a splendid one to beholdyoyodyne is a splendid one to beholdyoyodyne is a splendid one to beholdyoyodyne is a splendid one to behold
Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FIRST Announces PTC Collaboration Software Sponsorship!

I just started looking at it yesterday. Have posted some docs, set up some meetings. My concerns are:

1) It is not compatible with Firefox? and I know a lot of my team members use it (don't like explorer)

2) As was stated earlier, I don't know if we can count on it to be available in months and years to come

For CM I think we will stay with our local server and JEDI VCS/subversion for now until these questions are answered.

As an interesting note it sent meeting invitations to team members that hand been invited but had not yet joined.

Greg
Reply With Quote
  #11   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-12-2007, 21:32
AustinSchuh AustinSchuh is offline
Registered User
FRC #0971 (Spartan Robotics) #254 (The Cheesy Poofs)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Rookie Year: 1999
Location: Los Altos, CA
Posts: 803
AustinSchuh has a reputation beyond reputeAustinSchuh has a reputation beyond reputeAustinSchuh has a reputation beyond reputeAustinSchuh has a reputation beyond reputeAustinSchuh has a reputation beyond reputeAustinSchuh has a reputation beyond reputeAustinSchuh has a reputation beyond reputeAustinSchuh has a reputation beyond reputeAustinSchuh has a reputation beyond reputeAustinSchuh has a reputation beyond reputeAustinSchuh has a reputation beyond repute
Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FIRST Announces PTC Collaboration Software Sponsorship!

Can we run the version of Pro/E that we get under Linux? That would be a major selling point for my team.
Reply With Quote
  #12   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-12-2007, 23:18
Pat Fairbank's Avatar
Pat Fairbank Pat Fairbank is offline
Circuit Breaker
FRC #0254 (The Cheesy Poofs)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 2,132
Pat Fairbank has a reputation beyond reputePat Fairbank has a reputation beyond reputePat Fairbank has a reputation beyond reputePat Fairbank has a reputation beyond reputePat Fairbank has a reputation beyond reputePat Fairbank has a reputation beyond reputePat Fairbank has a reputation beyond reputePat Fairbank has a reputation beyond reputePat Fairbank has a reputation beyond reputePat Fairbank has a reputation beyond reputePat Fairbank has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via MSN to Pat Fairbank
Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FIRST Announces PTC Collaboration Software Sponsorship!

Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinSchuh View Post
Can we run the version of Pro/E that we get under Linux? That would be a major selling point for my team.
I looked this up when I first found out about the sponsorship. Unfortunately, PTC doesn't produce a version of the student edition of Pro/E that runs (natively) on Linux - they only do this for commercial versions. So those of us who were hoping to be able to run it on Linux are out of luck.
__________________
Patrick Fairbank
Team 254 | Mentor (2012-)
Team 1503 | Mentor (2007-2011)
Team 296 | Alumnus (2001-2004) | Mentor (2005-2006)

patfairbank.com
Reply With Quote
  #13   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 06-12-2007, 11:41
PTC_FRC PTC_FRC is offline
Registered User
no team
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Canada
Posts: 57
PTC_FRC is on a distinguished road
Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FIRST Announces PTC Collaboration Software Sponsorship!

Hi all,

Let me answer the questions asked in the last few posts.....

'I looked this up when I first found out about the sponsorship. Unfortunately, PTC doesn't produce a version of the student edition of Pro/E that runs (natively) on Linux - they only do this for commercial versions. So those of us who were hoping to be able to run it on Linux are out of luck.'

PTC's response - Pro/ENGINEER was ported to Linux over 5 years ago and was the first main stream CAD/CAM/CAE solution to offer support on Linux. This was a response to our commercial customers desire to run Pro/E on that OS. Once released we saw very little uptake on this OS. In actual fact, we have more people moving to our 64-bit Windows version of Pro/E. At this time, we have the following breakdown - 85% Windows, 15% UNIX and less the 1% on Linux. Even from the education market, we are not getting a lot of demand. As a result, PTC will no longer be releasing or supporting a Linux version of Pro/ENGINEER with it production release of Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 4.0.

PTC chose to only provide a 32-bit Windows version of Pro/ENGINEER for education as that was the OS being used by over 95% of our 15,000+ schools involved in our education program.

1) It is not compatible with Firefox? and I know a lot of my team members use it (don't like explorer)

2) As was stated earlier, I don't know if we can count on it to be available in months and years to come


PTC's response - PTC is working on supporting Firefox for Windchill ProjectLink. Agreed many teams are using Firefox and in actual fact are using ProjectLink as well. As it is not official supported, there might be a number of commands that might not operate or function properly. However, your overall experience should be the same as if you were using IE.

This is the first year of many to come supporting FRC. Next year, we will be using the latest release of Windchill ProjectLink available at that time. We are confident that Firefox will be officially supported for that year’s competition. Some of the other items we are considering to add will be the Workgroup Manager support for Solidworks.

'How long will the server be available?'

PTC's response - PTC will maintain the server for one month after the competition ends. PTC will send out an email to all registered teams that they should backup their work to their local machine using the export function in ProjectLink. This function will export all content and maintain the folder structure. At the end of that one month, the server will be taken offline and formatted, preparing for the next years competition.

If you have further question, please let us know. You can contact PTC directly at firstsupport@ptc.com.

Regards,
Mark Fischer
Director - PTC Education
Reply With Quote
  #14   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 19-12-2007, 16:16
Woodie Flowers Award
Ken Patton Ken Patton is offline
purple
FRC #0051 (Wings of Fire)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Rookie Year: 1997
Location: Pontiac, MI
Posts: 338
Ken Patton has a reputation beyond reputeKen Patton has a reputation beyond reputeKen Patton has a reputation beyond reputeKen Patton has a reputation beyond reputeKen Patton has a reputation beyond reputeKen Patton has a reputation beyond reputeKen Patton has a reputation beyond reputeKen Patton has a reputation beyond reputeKen Patton has a reputation beyond reputeKen Patton has a reputation beyond reputeKen Patton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FIRST Announces PTC Collaboration Software Sponsorship!

Has anyone successfully downloaded and used Mathcad through the donated PTC Windchill website yet?
Reply With Quote
  #15   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 19-12-2007, 16:58
kramarczyk's Avatar
kramarczyk kramarczyk is offline
is getting his kicks.
AKA: Mark Kramarczyk
FRC #3096 (Highlanders)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Sterling Heights, MI
Posts: 602
kramarczyk has a reputation beyond reputekramarczyk has a reputation beyond reputekramarczyk has a reputation beyond reputekramarczyk has a reputation beyond reputekramarczyk has a reputation beyond reputekramarczyk has a reputation beyond reputekramarczyk has a reputation beyond reputekramarczyk has a reputation beyond reputekramarczyk has a reputation beyond reputekramarczyk has a reputation beyond reputekramarczyk has a reputation beyond repute
Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FIRST Announces PTC Collaboration Software Sponsorship!

Tinkered around with, yes. Used productively, no.

If install is the problem, don't forget that an e-mail to firstsupport@ptc.com is required to get a product code. This is an additional step beyond what was required to install Pro-E.
__________________
Mark

Brick walls are for other people. - Randy Pausch
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
**FIRST EMAIL**/FIRST President Paul Gudonis Announces New Initiative - The President Pavan Dave FIRST E-Mail Blast Archive 14 01-05-2007 22:20
**FIRST EMAIL**/Autodesk Software Now Available on FIRSTbase! Pat Fairbank FIRST E-Mail Blast Archive 11 05-01-2007 11:09
**FIRST EMAIL**/FIRST Announces Championship Hotel Housing Company Mark McLeod FIRST E-Mail Blast Archive 0 15-11-2006 15:58
**FIRST EMAIL**/FIRST Announces New Class of Senior Mentors. Billfred FIRST E-Mail Blast Archive 1 23-12-2004 13:32
**FIRST EMAIL**/Autodesk Sponsorship Information Rich Wong FIRST E-Mail Blast Archive 6 18-11-2004 07:56


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:27.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi