**FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #2

[Elgin Clock]

Originally Posted by LSC Darkside451

Please excuse me because I’m quite new to this forum stuff, but I think everyone here on Chief Delphi is taking this whole hint thing too literally. Two years ago for the “Aim High” game we were given the hint about seeing Mt. Everest’s “Green Heights”, or something to that effect. In the end we realized the hint meant seeing the green light up in the air for targeting the goal. The hint certainly didn’t me to go to Mt. Everest to see what you could see.

It was Montana's Green Heights btw.


The Green Heights (as you stated) was the elevated light.

The Montana link was attributed to a plateau (AKA: The Platform under the light) in popular theory that year as well.

[JaneYoung]

Originally Posted by dani190

Exactly do you really think NASA. Let me say that again NASA, would make it that easy? Think about it its NASA some of the worlds brightest people probably work there. Even if they don't i think that they are way more qualified than us. Meaning they can make this thing very very complicated. They have probably spent months doing this hint.

Also read up people have mentioned the fact that what people think the game is and what it ends up being isn't even part of the truth.

Too bad someone doesn't know someone on the inside

Merry Christmas, Dani

Members of the GDC are members of FIRST. NASA is a sponsor for FIRST and helps in many areas. We have engineers and scientists that work for and with NASA. Dave Lavery is one of them. Some of the world's best and brightest minds in science, technology, and engineering are members of FIRST, mentors for teams, involved with the GDC. They also post in ChiefDelphi or read the fora. That is why this is such a special place. The hints are provided to the teams to give us something to do before Kick Off. If we choose to explore the possibilities, we can. Or we can spend our time doing other fun things. FIRST isn't making anyone do anything, they are offering hints for the upcoming game.

Many people here in the CD fora know 'someone' on the inside. They aren't out there somewhere, they are here among us and they won't give an inch regarding the clues. It's very cool.

Edit: Weird, I just posted after Dave. *sigh*

[neutrino15]

I just want to add,

To whoever thinks that we can use the IR sensor (without modifications, at least) to navigate, watch this video of it in use:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUx2w3J_jDk
Note how the remote can be WAY off to the side. This means that it would be a lousy directional imaging system.

[Kyle O'Don]

IR will most likely be used for communication because much finner spacial positioning is done with ultrasound. Also, assuming you could only use one IR board, only one side of your bot could do spacial analysis, which is not very helpful.

[cabman1]

It seems that if you treat 342 as both a bearing and a distance in feet, it goes through the obelisks and almost directly onto the back wall of the globe cafe.

[jakflyer]

ok, i have read all [most] of this thread and i saw the theories about the movie national treasure and the counterweight idea. I saw the movie tonight and thought i would put in my two cents: (this may or may not spoil the movie for you, its not that important though)

near the end there are four characters who have to stand on the corners of a giant wooden square that is balanced on a giant spike. They have to move around to keep the square balanced, and then they have to move together to try and raise up a corner so the guy could reach a suspended ladder.

Im not sure if i totally believe in the theory connecting the clue to national treasure, but if its true I would say that there would be something like that in the game, maybe four robots (using IR) that have to balance on a square in the center for the endgame.
Thats just what i think, its probably wrong though but just putting it out there

[cicib99]

so i saw all these pages and havent read all of the posts but i looked up John Copely(the statue of the coordinates) and it says he was a painter who pioneered the use of pastels = colors = rainbow ir wire

i dont know if its just me but im seeing this color thing as a trend

maybe im getting too into it but oh well im having fun :-D

Edit:the green and orange subway lines stop at copely square if that means anything
-also MIT was first founded in the corner of copely square
-probably just useless info but its keeping me busy:-D

[monkofevil]

The hancock tower is relatively close, within several decimals to: 342.24 ft. away from the coords provided by First.

Maybe it will have something to do with a tower.

Anyhow, I suggest full military incursion on this point to determine the exact meaning of the First clue.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by dani190

Exactly do you really think NASA. Let me say that again NASA, would make it that easy? Think about it its NASA some of the worlds brightest people probably work there. Even if they don't i think that they are way more qualified than us. Meaning they can make this thing very very complicated. They have probably spent months doing this hint.

Also read up people have mentioned the fact that what people think the game is and what it ends up being isn't even part of the truth.

Too bad someone doesn't know someone on the inside

Merry Christmas, Dani

I'm fairly certain NASA has got more important things to do with a few month's time than come up with game hints for FRC

Your point about numbers being able to mean anything is accurate; however no thought is required to come up with numbers that can mean multiple things. If you give it enough thought, you can come up with a relationship between any numbers, objects, people, places, etc, whether real or imagined.

Personally, I get more amusement out of people's reactions to the "game hints" than the hints themselves. I prefer not to think about them because the possibilities are so broad that even if you nailed it right on the head, you'd have no clue until kickoff...so why agonize over it for 2 weeks?

[sishu7]

Originally Posted by ervtech

or it could be something that is just flying under everybodys radar because i dont think that the people from FIRST and NASA would just hand us the game on a silver platter.

UM... all this talk about answers being too obvious...

If it was obvious, we would have it figured out!!!

(Unless we want to do Dave's Princess Bride type logic puzzle thing, in which case it is obvious that it would not be obvious but it still must be obvious enough to be labeled obvious and therefore the most likely thing is the least obvious thing that was obvious enough for us to come up with... unless it was obvious that it would be obvious that it would not be obvious, in which case it really should be obvious.)

[MiniNerd24]

Originally Posted by sishu7

UM... all this talk about answers being too obvious...

If it was obvious, we would have it figured out!!!

(Unless we want to do Dave's Princess Bride type logic puzzle thing, in which case it is obvious that it would not be obvious but it still must be obvious enough to be labeled obvious and therefore the most likely thing is the least obvious thing that was obvious enough for us to come up with... unless it was obvious that it would be obvious that it would not be obvious, in which case it really should be obvious.)

LOL yeah and to be honest this thread has around 30 people in it who can't figure this out! Ironic.

[njamietech]

Originally Posted by ervtech

wait.... what if the first two numbers are the coordinates to copley square right. Then what if the third number is the distance from the center of the square that the object we are looking for is?? maybe

The only question is the units for distance.

Is it miles, feet, meters, inches, etc.?

I think your headed in a good direction though.

[T3_1565]

Originally Posted by njamietech

The only question is the units for distance.

Is it miles, feet, meters, inches, etc.?

I think your headed in a good direction though.

I agree this seems like a good idea!!!

I also think if it is the statue that we should look 342 degrees from where it is looking!

[Kyle O'Don]

Just speculatively, since the third number is most likely a bearing and has SIX decimal places of precision, I am leaning towards it pointing us to something far way. However, the bearing passes through the obelisks and Globe Cafe, which (although it doesn't use the six decimal points) is pretty satisfying.

As we pursue the bearing idea further, which will probably dry up this clue for us, remember to shoot your bearings twice. Once using magnetic north and the other using true north.

[Code Monkey]

This can only mean one thing - upgraded processor to 16 bit (32 bit double accuracy) to get 9 significant figures. http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/im...lies/yikes.gif