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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #3

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I'll try a word-by-word. Something might make sense.

Vet: 2 definitions. 1. Short for veteran. 2. Short for veterinarian.
If we look at the "newest addition to the 2008 KOP," the second definition starts to make more sense:
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #3

A third hint
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #3

I'm not good at this stuff but could someone rearrange the letters and words in the new hint?
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #3

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Vet hurdling FIRST tetra

One tetra, not tetras

Thus not a return of triple play, where there were many.

That picture of Paul on top of the center tetra...
The obelisks at copley square, the way it reminded me of 04's main support for the hang bar

I have a real odd feeling that some form of "King of the Hill" is going be a part of this game. There prolly will be a tetra in the middle... a bit bigger than '05.

That' all I have to say with regards to this hint. I'm baffled otherwise.

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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #3

I am a mentor in Southern Maryland - Team 836 - this hint actually strikes me as something that happens around here. Each summer, at the US Naval Academy, the plebes have to climb an obelisk and put a "cap" on the top. This hint sounds very similar to what the plebes have to do. Here is an excerpt from an NPR article on this event.

The first-year students of the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, Md., graduated from plebe to third-class status on Thursday. All they have left to do is climb the Herndon Monument, a 21-foot, gray obelisk.

That is not an easy task. Upper classmen lather the monument with 200 pounds of lard. The plebes must work together to climb to the top of the monument and replace a white, plebe "Dixie cup" hat with an upperclassman's hat.

Here is the link to the article, and the picture of them climbing the obelisk.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=10258246

So to echo several other posts - sounds like a king of the hill competition to me as well! Come to the Chesapeake Regional to see the real thing - the obelisk, that is!
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Navy?

did someone say Water Game?
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Navy?

did someone say Water Game?
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #3

The IR sensor (aka Game Hint #1) was first introduced to the competition in 2005 (if I understand correctly)... 2005 was also the year the game pieces were Tetra's (aka Game Hint #3 anybody?)... conincidence? or a possible connection between the two??

My guess it that the competition will involve a larger Tetra in the centre of the field from which (and ONLY from which) teams may score other game pieces (Squares and Circles) lying on the field...

2 days 16 hrs.. i wish time would just speed up so the season would start.. =)
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #3

Maybe VETerans (of triple play) need to score with tetras (third hint) and the new teams score with Squares (2nd hint) and they all need to use the IR to know where to score (first hint)
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The IR sensor (aka Game Hint #1) was first introduced to the competition in 2005 (if I understand correctly)... =)
2004 was IR, 05 was the CMU Cam
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #3

How about... Rack n' Roll with a Tetra!

Instead of the Rack, you have a gigantic tetra which you somehow score on. your robot can lock onto IR targets (seeing the success with which we used the green lights, those are probably out).

Perhaps there is also an element of Raising the Bar, where you have to hang on something or get over something- if you get over the Tetra you get extra points? There might be some device which the robot would have to use to get over- maybe an element found on Copley Square?
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You are soooo dead. 116--Dave's team--is from Herndon, VA!
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #3

Personally, I can't get past the idea that we're going to have to be climbing or getting over something. I am a second year FIRSTer, but it seems like for at least the past two years there has been something to climb, whether it be part of the field or an alliance member. What I keep coming back to is maybe a ramp and platform, similar to a speed bump as mentioned in a previous post, that maybe you have to get over in order to reach the game pieces... as far as vet... if you take it as veterinarian, maybe something to do with fixing something? the IR could tell you which piece is which and where it goes? then you have to assemble, or put in order, the game pieces... maybe you have to MAKE a tetra? wow, that would be interesting...
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #3

2005's game "Triple Play" included (introduced? it was my rookie year) the CMU camera. Some tetra game pieces had a plywood panel attached, with instructions for the exact shade of green to paint them. (Pix: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...TriplePlay.jpg)
The autonomous mode comprised finding the green panel with the camera and placing the tetra on a goal tower, along with some easier but less lucrative functions. The camera/plywood combination was a complete flop, and most teams didn't bother mounting the camera on their 'bot. 2006 "Aim High" introduced the green light panel, and in 2007 "Rack 'n Roll" there were four light panels. Now we have another optical element (or at least a hint), the IR sensor board. The trend from 2005 has been to include the camera/light combination and it's my guess it will continue. Of course, we'll find out soon!

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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Game Hint #3

ahh.. thanks for the correction.. then i have to go with what Gary says about the Sensor + Light combination...

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Now we have another optical element (or at least a hint), the IR sensor board. The trend from 2005 has been to include the camera/light combination and it's my guess it will continue.
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