Tote

[KcTechTeacher]

Does anyone have a tote modeled in inventor? You know the ones that everything comes in.
Thanks Jay

[vivek16]

Sorry but I don't. I will search for you. May I ask what you need them for?

-vivek

EDIT: didn't find them at firstcadlibrary.com

[Nate Laverdure]

Originally Posted by vivek16

Sorry but I don't. I will search for you. May I ask what you need them for?

The totes themselves are part of the KOP. This means that they could definitely be used on the robot. The trackball doesn't fit inside, though...

[KcTechTeacher]

We are thinking about using them as part of our robot. Might make a nice easy housing.

[Elgin Clock]

Originally Posted by Nate Laverdure

The totes themselves are part of the KOP. This means that they could definitely be used on the robot. The trackball doesn't fit inside, though...

Just a quick heads up. In the past use of any boxes, or say... plastic totes that parts came in from the KoP have been generally disallowed as far as being part of the robot.

A question may need to be posed to FIRST just to be sure of the rules for this year though.

[Richard Wallace]

Originally Posted by Nate Laverdure

The totes themselves are part of the KOP. This means that they could definitely be used on the robot. The trackball doesn't fit inside, though...

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock

Just a quick heads up. In the past use of any boxes, or say... plastic totes that parts came in from the KoP have been generally disallowed as far as being part of the robot.

A question may need to be posed to FIRST just to be sure of the rules for this year though.

The totes are explicitly listed on the 2008 KoP Checklist. (DC2717-12, black on page 5 and grey on page 17). Has that been the case in previous years?

[Elgin Clock]

Originally Posted by Richard

The totes are explicitly listed on the 2008 KoP Checklist. (DC2717-12, black on page 5 and grey on page 17). Has that been the case in previous years?

http://www2.usfirst.org/2007comp/Man...klist_RevE.pdf
Page 4 lists the Red Tote from 2007's manual.
That is a good point.

I think the question definitely needs to be asked now as I am only going from memory on this one.

[Nate Laverdure]

Originally Posted by Richard

The totes are explicitly listed on the 2008 KoP Checklist. (DC2717-12, black on page 5 and grey on page 17). Has that been the case in previous years?

Yes.

In Section 10 of the manual I see this section:

The FIRST 2008 KoP is provided in multiple containers. They consist of the following packages:
1 – FIRST large black plastic tote for pickup at Kickoff
1 – FIRST large grey plastic tote for pickup at Kickoff
1 – Innovation First, Inc. KitBot box for pickup at Kickoff
1 – Innovation First, Inc. Electronics Kit for pickup at Kickoff
2 – BaneBots motors for pickup at Kickoff (RS540 & RS550)
1 – FedEx envelope for pickup at Kickoff

Since the electronics kit and BaneBots motors are also listed here, I assume that all containers are also parts of the KOP.

The totes are COTS anyway, right? This means that they should not be disallowed.

[Tristan Lall]

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock

Just a quick heads up. In the past use of any boxes, or say... plastic totes that parts came in from the KoP have been generally disallowed as far as being part of the robot.

Originally Posted by Richard

The totes are explicitly listed on the 2008 KoP Checklist. (DC2717-12, black on page 5 and grey on page 17). Has that been the case in previous years?

That's a rule in FTC (and several of its predecessors), but has not been a rule in FRC within recent memory.

The boxes do meet all the requirements for kit parts, and COTS parts, so they're allowed either way.

[KcTechTeacher]

Tote can be use. This is for the 06 season. They have been a KOP as long as we have been involved.

[Elgin Clock]

I guess I stand corrected on this issue.

Darn memory isn't what it used to be.

[AndyB]

Make sure you ask on the Q&A before making a final decision.