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Re: Who are you cheering for in the Super Bowl?

I'm glad someone else notices this stuff besides me.

The 'perfect' Patriots fell today. They will not go down as the 19-0 Patriots, but instead will be remembered as the team that lost a perfect season to an underdog.

2 Years, 2 Mannings. The more deserving team won today and I could not be happier.
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Re: Who are you cheering for in the Super Bowl?

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I'm for the Pats because, I've been a fan since the Bledsoe days when we kinda stunk and for the perfect season which we may never see again.

As for the cheating thing: It boils down to this? Did they cheat yes. Did it have any bearing on the outcome of the games they played? NO. If it did have an effect we wouldn't be 18-0.
and you have to remember, Bill Belichick hates Eric Mangini, and i also think that Belichick was like a man on a mission to destroy, no other coaches came to his aid after he was caught...and i believe that all the coaches are doing somthing to gain an edge...
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Re: Who are you cheering for in the Super Bowl?

I live in MA, I have to root for the Patriots...

BTW, They were caught cheating in the FIRST game of the season, and caught during the first half, Do you really think it made much of an impact on much of the rest of their season?
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Re: Who are you cheering for in the Super Bowl?

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BTW, They were caught cheating in the FIRST game of the season, and caught during the first half, Do you really think it made much of an impact on much of the rest of their season?
It's not that, but the nerve of them to cheat in the first place, even if they did get caught, I think it's horrible that they'd even try to cheat. Also, if they didn't get caught, it probably would've mattered, I think. But still, they had the nerve to cheat, which to me is the definition of a bad (as in evil) team.
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Re: Who are you cheering for in the Super Bowl?

Interesting.

Personally i think the giants will be able to pull off the upset and take this Super Bowl victory
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Re: Who are you cheering for in the Super Bowl?

Only two outcomes can please me...
1. An insanely close pats victory and an all around excellent game to watch
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2. a complete blowout of the pats by the giants (for the lolz)
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Re: Who are you cheering for in the Super Bowl?

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As for the cheating thing: It boils down to this? Did they cheat yes. Did it have any bearing on the outcome of the games they played? NO. If it did have an effect we wouldn't be 18-0.
So... it's OK to cheat as long as you'd win anyways? That defies my logic.

I'm rooting for nobody. I don't like either team, though I dislike the Patriots. I fully expect this to be a terrible SB.
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Re: Who are you cheering for in the Super Bowl?

I'm in for the Giants. I figure as an Indiana native and rabid Colts fan, I should show a little "brotherly" love for Eli. He's pretty underrated, especially this season. He's done way better in his last five games than Peyton... I think it's time for us to stop judging Eli based on his brother's performance and start looking at him as a decent quarterback. Especially considering some of the mediocre quarterbacks in the league right now.

I absolutely despise teams that cheat, in FIRST or otherwise. That sums it up for me.
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Re: Who are you cheering for in the Super Bowl?

I feel like the minority wanting the Patriots to win. Since Los Angeles has not had a team for most of my life, I was a Patriots fan. Im also a Packers and Colts fan too, but I am sad they are eliminated. I wanted Colts to take it though. Although Eli is a great QB, I think Brady and Moss combo is too good for the Giants to stop. Since the Giants played dirty, and dont kid yourself, they did, against Randy Moss in that last game of the season, I think Patriots have it. As much as I would love Peyton or Farve to be in the super bowl slot, I am glad Brady is there. You have to admit though, without Moss, Brady isnt as good. But Moss is freaken amazing!!!!

Football aint really my main sport i watch, its all about basketball (go Lakers)!!!!
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Re: Who are you cheering for in the Super Bowl?

Y'know, this is why I don't like sports, and politics for that matter. Despise? Hate? What does that have to do with the game? The Patriots play a good game and win. I remember when they went to the Super Bowl and lost like they weren't even there.

The cheating scandal? Like politics, I am sure if the Patriots did it (and got caught, and sucked up to it and paid the fine for it rather quickly if I remember) what makes you so sure no other team does it too? I don't know why they did it and I don't think any of you do either.

Bob Craft? He put the team together and got them a home. He yanked a lot of chains around here too, and my town didn't get much either. If your parents did some shady deals should we blame you too?

And another thing -- it's not Boston vs New York (City). It's Foxborough MA (well, technically all of New England) vs East Rutherford NJ. Those other cities get the parades and the glory only.

I'm not saying this because the Patriots are my neighbors. I have neighbors in houses down the street from me I don't like. I just ignore them. (And I'm polite to them and their children.) They aren't worth the time to "hate". Plus I grew up outside NYC, so I got the best (and worst) of both worlds.

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Re: Who are you cheering for in the Super Bowl?

I have to root for the Giants for several good reasons
1. Even though the beat the Packers (which is a reason I HATE the giants) I would rather say I lost to the team that won the Super Bowl rather than the team that lost the Super Bowl
2. The Patriots are a bunch of cheaters
3. The Patriots are too arrogant
4. Two of the games the giants played were against teams that beat them in the regular season (Dallas and Green Bay) and the giants beat both of them in the Playoffs so they could keep this streak against New England
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The cheating scandal? Like politics, I am sure if the Patriots did it (and got caught, and sucked up to it and paid the fine for it rather quickly if I remember) what makes you so sure no other team does it too? I don't know why they did it and I don't think any of you do either.
This is more of an ethical indictment than anything. You're saying it's ok to cheat as long as you a) get caught b) admit you got caught cheating c)other people are doing it and d) you have a good reason for cheating?

I cannot see why people are trying to rationalize the Patriots cheating. They flat out got caught cheating. Whether everyone else is cheating or not is irrelevant. They did, and it's no less wrong because "everyone else" is doing it.

Suggesting it's OK if they had a good reason (we don't need to know why they did it; they CHEATED. That's all that matters! Besides, this is a professional sporting event. For what reasons would you cheat, besides to gain a competitive advantage?) is one of the most ludicrous ideas I've heard in a long time

Now you can argue the Patriots shouldn't be the only ones being ripped on for cheating, that the entire league should be under scrutiny, but that's something different altogether.
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Re: Who are you cheering for in the Super Bowl?

m goin 4 the Pats cause i live in NE
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I cannot see why people are trying to rationalize the Patriots cheating. They flat out got caught cheating. Whether everyone else is cheating or not is irrelevant. They did, and it's no less wrong because "everyone else" is doing it.
Cory is exactly right. It doesn't matter whether or not it is football or FIRST, 'everyone else does it' is NOT an excuse to break the rules. The Patriots were busted because they were doing something wrong. A spectator may be right in saying that the whole NFL is corrupt and every team breaks the rules for their competitive advantage. If that's true, why do we bother to watch? That corruption takes away from the game and the players who truly are incredible athletes. It overshadows the close wins and the tough losses. It's no longer a game - or a competition - at that point.

Just like football, we've all heard rumors about teams cheating in FIRST, 'creatively' bending the rules to give them the competitive edge that puts them over the top and into the winners' spot. That isn't winning. When you are playing in a sport (or any competition, for that matter) where a winner is to be determined, the true winner is the person or team that follows the rules and still manages to best their opponents.

I do not root for football or FIRST teams that cheat. If someone told me tomorrow that my favorite sports teams cheated, I'd find another team to root for. Whether its steroids, videotapes, or whatever it is, "everyone is doing it" is NOT acceptable. It does not make you a role model.

You aren't a winner in football - or FIRST - unless you walk off the field knowing that you followed the rules completely, did your best, and still managed to eek out the win. Knowing that you were truly chosen as the best of the best, without having to resort to petty or foul play to win; walking off the field with the respect (no matter how begrudging) of your competitors; picking up that trophy or having that medal placed around your neck, and knowing that you've earned it - THAT is winning.
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Re: Who are you cheering for in the Super Bowl?

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...but if they win it'll shut up those annoying '72 Dolphins who I also don't care for.
I'm so torn.
My dad says the same thing. Personally I have to root for the Pats to go perfect for 2 reasons:
1) I liked the Pats when they had Bledsoe, so I'd like to see them go 19-0
2) I'm still a little upset that the Packers lost to the Giants, so I want the Gmen to lose.
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