Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008

[Jonathan Norris]

Originally Posted by blakcheez

Well, I understand that, but someone stated above that they started running out of space. It's an idea just in case they start runnning out of space.

I'll point The Blue Alliance guys over to this thread to see if they have the capabilities to archive all the matches this season.

[Tom Bottiglieri]

MP4 is fine on our side. (In fact, it's much better. Hopefully when flash 9 is polished we can do away with FLV's)

It will take more resources for compression, though. We are battling an h264 encoding problem at the moment. Does anyone know a good way to compress this stuff in real time?

[notaPINKtruck]

h.264 is really processor intensive both on the compression and playback ends, and it's definitely not designed for real-time encoding (at least by anybody other than DirecTV and the likes). I don't think you're going to get good performance unless you buy a specialized encoder card or have a REALLY high end system.

I recommend staying with wmv for now. The encoder performs well in real-time professionally, and is freely available. Plus I would argue it's the more accessible than quicktime MP4.

FLV is great for easy website integration, but not much else.

[synth3tk]

I prefer to disagree to the pro-WMV argument. It is a dying format, more and more players support MP4 well, than Windows Media.

[Mike AA]

I will be able to record via DVD Boilermaker and West Michigan. I will do my best to get the video uploaded for downloads. Also inaddition I have been hosting video archives for the last 3 years. I only have most of last year and part of 2006 online. I am hunting through my DVDs looking for past years video and slowly updating it.

I run www.firstvideoarchive.com I have approximately 1.5TB of storage and 15000TB in bandwidth each month. Feel free to PM me about getting the videos that are recorded onto the web, I will not run out of storage and as my 2.5GB downloaded so far this month would show the videos are relatively easy to find.

Last year SOAP did run out of space and had to delete some videos before championship to be able to record all the fields. I think later in the year they said they had that problem fixed.

-Mike

[Jonathan Norris]

Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik

To the suggestion that we just concentrate on TBA as the central hub.... I like their format and layout and etc for the convenience, but it's flash video. It typically looks marginally better than something filmed on a cell phone cam covered in vaseline. If TBA is willing to host better quality WMVs of all the matches in addition to the cheesy flash video, then I'm happy, otherwise, I'd rather find someone who really wants to archive the files.

On every match on The Blue Alliance you have the option to download it in the higher quality format (most of them right off SOAP last year). Maybe they need to make that more obvious on their website.

[Koko Ed]

I see that the Rochester Rally is listed.
I can get you video of that event.

[Matt Keller]

SOAP will be recording the Florida and New Jersey regionals as well as the Championship.

[aksimhal]

So what exactly will I need to bring to record the VCU regional?

Thanks,

[soap108]

This is an update to a previous post:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?p=576804

This one has the 2008 regionals.




For consistency and predictability sake, we have a preference in naming the movie files.

General Naming Rules
* Two or three character event abbreviation in lowercase, e.g. "fl"
* Underscore, "_"

* XOR:
Qualification: Use THREE digits, "001", "047", "108".
Elimination: Use "qf4m2", "sf2m1", "fm3"
Awards: Use "award_" + AwardDescription.
Opening: Use "openingremarks_" + "friday" or "saturday".
Closing: Use "closingremarks_" + "friday" or "saturday".
Else: any string that does not begin with "qf", "sf", "fm", or a digit.

* ".wmv" (or whatever format extention you encoded, hopefully windows media)

Notes:
# Always use lowercase, please.
# No spaces in a filename, please.
# Sometimes a match gets replayed- name the one that counts in the standings as "fl_001.wmv". The one(s) that do NOT count, "fl_001bad1.wmv", "fl_001bad2.wmv", etc...

Abbreviations are as follows:
BAE SYSTEMS Granite State Regional NH
Midwest Regional IL
New Jersey Regional NJ
Pacific Northwest Regional OR
St. Louis Regional MO

Arizona Regional AZ
Finger Lakes Regional ROC
Greater Kansas City Regional KC
NASA / VCU Regional VA
San Diego Regional SDC

Boilermaker Regional IN
Chesapeake Regional MD
UTC Connecticut Regional CT
Detroit Regional DT
Florida Regional FL
Peachtree Regional GA
Pittsburgh Regional PIT
Silicon Valley Regional SJ
Wisconsin Regional WI
Brazilian Regional BR

Buckeye Regional OH
Lone Star Regional TX
Los Angeles Regional CA
Microsoft Seattle Regional WA
Oklahoma City Regional OK
Sacramento Regional SAC
Waterloo Regional WAT
West Michigan Regional MI

Israel Regional IS

Bayou Regional LA
Boston Regional MA
Colorado Regional CO
Great Lakes Regional GL
Greater Toronto Regional ON
Hawaii Regional HI
Las Vegas Regional NV
Minnesota Regional MN
Palmetto Regional SC
Philadelphia Regional PA
SBPLI Long Island Regional LI

New York City Regional NY


Many thanks,
KA-108

[Greg Marra]

Originally Posted by soap108

* ".wmv" (or whatever format extention you encoded, hopefully windows media)

I still really feel we should move to a modern video format. The videos Wildstang has posted are in xVid and are wonderfully easier to work with than Windows Media Video files.

[Vikesrock]

I'm pretty sure 2175 will be recording MN.

I think we definitely should try and pick one video format for all the videos.

[aksimhal]

Has anyone tried SnapStream yet? (I'm downloading it right now)? Any opinions?

[Jonathan Norris]

Originally Posted by aksimhal

Has anyone tried SnapStream yet? (I'm downloading it right now)? Any opinions?

I have and my honest opinion is that it is far easier to just record directly with windows movie maker. SnapStream is a good program, but for this application its just too much effort to set up, firing up windows movie maker is just alot easier.

[aksimhal]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Norris

I have and my honest opinion is that it is far easier to just record directly with windows movie maker. SnapStream is a good program, but for this application its just too much effort to set up, firing up windows movie maker is just alot easier.

But doesn't Windows Movie Maker only output to .wmv?