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Hello, everyone,

Hope everyone is enjoying their Build season.I have a question regarding the Joysticks. The joysticks(Black) which were used in the saeson of 2005 or before, which had 2 button. Are these joysticks allowed this year, if yes, can you please tell me the model # and place where i can buy these joysticks from.?. Appearently, they seem to work perfectly for our drive train and the drivers and we dont like the one which coem with the KOP.Please reply as sson as posible.

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Re: Joysticks.Plz reply ASAP

Yes, You can use them but I don't know where to get them... We're using one joystick since you pretty much get the same values and It's easier since they gave us 2 right handed joysticks.
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Re: Joysticks.Plz reply ASAP

They CH Flightsticks. You cant buy them new anymore, but they can sometimes be found on ebay. CH does make new flightsticks, but different model. They are legal to use for the robot as they were previous KoP items.

If the new joysticks are giving you trouble from how it handles, people have switched out the springs and it seems to work.
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Re: Joysticks.Plz reply ASAP

Hi, I have looked into their website. It seems that the connection of the Joystick is USB not the one we use as a DB connnecter.
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Re: Joysticks.Plz reply ASAP

Is it possible that anyone lend us one if they have a spare?
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Re: Joysticks.Plz reply ASAP

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If the new joysticks are giving you trouble from how it handles, people have switched out the springs and it seems to work.
A little off topic, but, if you hold the white joysticks down near their base they're fantastic if you're a light touch driver.

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Re: Joysticks.Plz reply ASAP

but the problem is since this year there is fast transmissions, The problem with white is it does not turn properly and plus its touch senstive, even witha light touch, the robots runs very fast.

PS:Is there someone who might not be using theirs would lend it to us?


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Re: Joysticks.Plz reply ASAP

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but the problem is since this year there is fast transmissions, The problem with white is it does not turn properly and plus its touch senstive, even witha light touch, the robots runs very fast.

PS:Is there someone who might not be using theirs would lend it to us?


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They are a pretty coveted item. I am not sure how many teams have ones that they are not using. Why dont you try to write some code so that they are less sensitive around the starting point.
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Re: Joysticks.Plz reply ASAP

I've drooled over the black sticks ever since i saw another team use them last year. besides the appropriate amount of sensitivity, they were ambidextrous. This made them perfect for tank driving. Two right-handed sticks are just plain awkward. You can go out and get Saitek sticks that are ambidextrous, but they are USB and you need to plunk down the cash for the chicklet. Maybe they can fix this with the new Controller i've heard about.
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Re: Joysticks.Plz reply ASAP

The CH Flightsticks were included in the KOP until 2004 when they changed over to the new (yuck) white things due to the new model CH Flightsticks being USB. The old ones seem to have a nice feel to them. I have found that they come up on ebay once in a while and from what I have heard, they are relatively easy to repair.
http://cgi.ebay.com/CH-Flightstick-joystick_W0QQitemZ150212668466QQihZ005QQcategoryZ7 4944QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/CH-Products-FlightStick-Joystick-w-Game-Port-connector_W0QQitemZ170191530114QQihZ007QQcategoryZ 74944QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

The black ones were actually only in the kits for about 3 years, before that they were grey.

Also remember that certain "touchy" controls can be resolved through the control software.
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Re: Joysticks.Plz reply ASAP

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They CH Flightsticks. You cant buy them new anymore, but they can sometimes be found on ebay. CH does make new flightsticks, but different model. They are legal to use for the robot as they were previous KoP items.

If the new joysticks are giving you trouble from how it handles, people have switched out the springs and it seems to work.
Just out of curiosity ... since the flightsticks cannot be purchaced through a retailer, they shouldn't be COTS. So why are they legal?
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Re: Joysticks.Plz reply ASAP

they are unmodified previous KoP items.
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Re: Joysticks.Plz reply ASAP

There do not appear to be any rules in section 8.3.10 that restricts OI controllers to COTS items.
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Re: Joysticks.Plz reply ASAP

If I recall the joysticks can be ANY control item (joystick) not over the max price. In previous years I have purchases joysticks from computer stores or shows with the DB15 connector. Most any joystick with a 15 pin game port connector (DB15) will work. Some times you may need to rewire the controllers.

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Re: Joysticks.Plz reply ASAP

http://www.chproducts.com/retail/joysticks.html

our team bought one of the fighter joy sticks...its kind of like the old flight sticks but it is a lot bigger with a lot more buttons.... i dont know if this will help.
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