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Re: At Competition

Well, I could take this in a direction about women wanting equal treatment, and then complaining when they get it, but I wont.
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Re: At Competition

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We have been very fortunate to have mostly females on our team and this is where the ugliness comes in, the language that I hear in the pits is unbelievable
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Some of us old guys were raised as gentlemen that do not curse around women, if that is sexist then so be it.
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Sensitivity for language in front of females is something I was brought up on.
Well, I was raised to treat women as equals. I know quite a few females who would be offended by the comments quoted here. (See? Just because something offends you doesn't mean it offends others, and conversely, just because something makes perfect sense to you it can still be considered offensive by others. There's no possible way we'll remove everything that is considered offensive to someone from a FIRST event.)

If you all want to avoid using foul language, that's a great idea, but do it out of respect for the men AND women around you. If you all think women would be offended by it, then why wouldn't you think men would be too? K-Dawg, Sam, and Al, can I take your comments to mean that you would find no problem with swearing in the pits if there were only men around?
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K-Dawg, Sam, and Al, can I take your comments to mean that you would find no problem with swearing in the pits if there were only men around?
No, I was just giving the context in which I was raised. I don't think swearing should be used at all.

Look I live in the real world most of the time and I understand that swearing is a part of it. I will most of the time overlook the occasional swear word but I have been in the pits next to a team who constantly used foul language and I had to have a talk with the students when it was apparent that their mentor didn't care. They apologized and stopped.

I just object to the train of thought that seems to say that cursing is part of the work environment so it's OK to let the kids swear away.

It's not censorship it's teaching the right thing.
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