Regionals Not Archived

[proegssilb]

I'd prefer a continuous recording solution, but that requires at least a dual-core and a good amount of RAM if you want to include splitting.

The best options, to me, are splitting based on sound (think: Voice recognition with two words, split 5-10 seconds before the start word, and after the end word. I doubt the computer really cares if the sound is an english word or not unless it is in dictation mode. Knowledge of the Microsoft Speech API required), or split based on user input (I'd want the computer to take a range to split in, and let me go back and find the exact frame to split before or after it finishes recording).

Originally Posted by Jonathan Norris

computers like to crash

My only problems stemmed from user error, and the fact that it somehow got turned off early. I'm attributing both to human error, probably all mine.
I guess my vote is that computers are inconsistently inconsistent.

[Greg Marra]

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock

Then again, someone can just sit there at the feed box at the regional and start and stop recording manually as well.

This is possible now, but there are still dozens of unarchived regionals.

[Uberbots]

Originally Posted by Greg Marra

This is possible now, but there are still dozens of unarchived regionals.

Thats why the 'archiving team' needs a bit more collaboration, communication, and fallback.
What you guys do is amazing, and im guessing a couple tiny improvements will bring you from 25% to 100% easily.

[proegssilb]

Originally Posted by nikeairmancurry

Myt fault i meant to say West Michigan REgional

I've done what I thought I should for WMR. If you really want to hear some of the worst audio ever for announcers, I can get the first 50 qualifying matchers together. The matches for Finals got corrupted, so I can't do anything for those. I thought that everyone would be much better off waiting until Mike got to them, and no one has bothered to correct me on that assumption.

[Pavan Dave]

If anybody has any Bayou or Lone Star footage, it would be greatly appreciated!

Pavan.

[Jonathan Norris]

Originally Posted by nikeairmancurry

There are many teams that may have hosted regional webcasts and first off they need to be thanked over and over for there time and effort. Yet, it would be very nice if some were to be archived for teams to watch.. I dont want this to sound to demanding, but some teams memebers would like see some video. Some regionals that come to mind...

I'm sorry to say it, but you do sound demanding... recording a regional and getting up on TBA and SOAP is a very labour intensive process. It takes someone setting up the recording equipment, checking the recording every so often to make sure things are working. Then once the footage has been recorded many times it has to be brought into the computer and then the parsing of the video takes at least 6 hours of work itself. Then it needs to be uploaded to the FTP servers, and on TBA's end more work needs to be done to convert it again and organize it. So before you go complaining about some regionals not being recorded take a look here, and the TBA forum and see the hard work thats going on behind the scene to get all the video recorded and up for your viewing pleasure, and hey feel free to join in and help out! There is footage out there that still needs to be parsed and split up.

Sorry if I sound slightly annoyed, but you have to understand that getting all this video footage takes a lot of man hours which many people have worked on. We have improved greatly over last year in getting regional footage into a central hub, there are improvements that will be made for next year to make this all easier for people to do. Just to let you know webcasting and recording are usually done totally separately, these jobs usually need to be split up and thats possibly why some regionals had webcasts but not archives.

P.S. GTR will be up eventually, not until after Atlanta though

[galewind]

I hate to sound needy, especially after that post, but I'm looking for connecticut footage, too. I know it was being cast, though I don't know if the feed was reliable.

[TKM.368]

We managed to post the elimination matches for the Portland Regional to TBA. For most of the qualifications, we got very minimal (if any) audio. I know 488 was also recording the regional there and I wouldn't be surprised if they also recorded the Seattle Regional.

We also have the Hawaii Regional recorded, but there's just a lot of time necessary to get them prepped and sent to TBA.

If you're looking to have all of these videos before Championships on Thursday, you're probably out of luck. For us, it's just one student who is willing to spend the hours upon hours to get it all prepped. I'm sure it's that way with most of the other regionals as well. Given some time, many of them will eventually get posted - just not on the 'gotta have it now' timeframe we've come to expect in this society.

[xcentrix]

We've got pretty much the entire Hawaii regionals archived in windows media format. Windows media player is not the preferred format for TBA.

I haven't had a chance to send the archives to the NASA folks to have it converted. I have time tomorrow morning to try to track down my NASA contacts and/or TBA to see about getting the archives up.

[Akash Rastogi]

Any idea on the whereabouts of Chesapeake? It could not be webcasted and I don't know if it was recorded. I really don't care about audio as long as there's video footage that I can put up on a website. Thanks.

[Doug G]

I'll piggyback off of Jonathan's Post... I uploaded the video for Davis last year to Soap, only to see it gone a month later. While recording the video was not a problem, PARSING it took me (an old techie) about 10 hours of work.

I would have done it again this year for Davis - but the computer I had setup for it crashed the day before and I just didn't have time to fix it up.

I think it would be much more doable if there existed a way to just upload the entire video and one of you programming guru's write a script to parse it. Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Ok, now go ahead and tell me how impossible that is....

Also if you are complaining that there isn't an archive for a webcast, then GET A RECORDER (also discussed in other threads) and record it yourself. I recorded SVR on my computer - it's not as high quality as a direct link at the arena - but still good enough to use and learn from.

[Greg Marra]

Originally Posted by xcentrix

We've got pretty much the entire Hawaii regionals archived in windows media format. Windows media player is not the preferred format for TBA.

I haven't had a chance to send the archives to the NASA folks to have it converted. I have time tomorrow morning to try to track down my NASA contacts and/or TBA to see about getting the archives up.

Preferred, maybe not, acceptable, absolutely. Check your PMs.

[Uberbots]

for future years, you guys just need a peice of TBA-compatible software which sits at one of the hubs at each regional. this application simply listens to the signals from mission control (or whoever starts/stops the matches) and uses that data to record and encode the movie. files are saved based on match data from mission control.


its kinda forward, and maybe a little complex logistic-wise, but if it could be done then the organization would be increased, and man-hours and waiting time would be decreased.

[Vikesrock]

Originally Posted by Uberbots

for future years, you guys just need a peice of TBA-compatible software which sits at one of the hubs at each regional. this application simply listens to the signals from mission control (or whoever starts/stops the matches) and uses that data to record and encode the movie. files are saved based on match data from mission control.


its kinda forward, and maybe a little complex logistic-wise, but if it could be done then the organization would be increased, and man-hours and waiting time would be decreased.

Not sure FIRST would like this any more than they liked Sundial........

[David55]

Originally Posted by Uberbots

for future years, you guys just need a peice of TBA-compatible software which sits at one of the hubs at each regional. this application simply listens to the signals from mission control (or whoever starts/stops the matches) and uses that data to record and encode the movie. files are saved based on match data from mission control.


its kinda forward, and maybe a little complex logistic-wise, but if it could be done then the organization would be increased, and man-hours and waiting time would be decreased.

This idea has been thought of before and discussed with FIRST. There is no simple way to trigger the recording unless you receive a direct signal from the field computer. This is not a simple task and requires software modifications on the field computer, as well as a good amount of scripting on the recording side. There are current attempts being made to get this working and hopefully there will be more details later on...