Size of KOP Crates

[Madison]

I've merged two threads discussing very similar subjects.

Also, if it's hard for y'all to change your CAD design dimensions from 28x38 to anything remotely similar, you're doing it wrong.

[coalhot]

Last year, our team fit all the crates and boxes into a honda CR-V (old small version).

~philip

[=Martin=Taylor=]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

Better yet, how do you fit a 38" maximum robot dimension into a 36" box?

The kitbot side-rails from last year were 36" long out of the box. After you added the endcaps it grew to about 37", a healthy one inch under the limit.

This proves to me that the robot dimensions must be 38" x (some lesser number (probably 28"))."

[Andrew Schreiber]

Originally Posted by Hachiban VIII

This proves to me that the robot dimensions must be 38" x (some lesser number (probably 28"))."

Now, what would make you think that? Nothing says that FIRST wont change the dimension and say, "You can use this but you have to cut it yourself"

Remember, the only rules that are set in stone are those regarding safety. But I'll go back to quietly waiting for kickoff now.

[Racer26]

Thats possible, but unlikely. Dimensions have been 28"x38" since at least 2003. I can't see them moving away from this, as it makes for robots that fit nicely through a standard doorway.

[Billfred]

Originally Posted by 1075guy

Thats possible, but unlikely. Dimensions have been 28"x38" since at least 2003. I can't see them moving away from this, as it makes for robots that fit nicely through a standard doorway.

Aaaaaactually, the 2004 robots had to fit in a 36x30x60 space. 2005 saw the start of 28x38x??. And, of course, FIRST could change it this year just to spite the CADders on CD irritate challenge us.

[Racer26]

Originally Posted by Billfred

Aaaaaactually, the 2004 robots had to fit in a 36x30x60 space. 2005 saw the start of 28x38x??. And, of course, FIRST could change it this year just to spite the CADders on CD irritate challenge us.

You are correct... I remembered there being a slight shift, but it not really making much difference, other than making the robot easier to shove through a doorway. we lost 2" in one dimension to gain it in the other... no big deal. I still doubt a shift away from 28x38" unless there's some radical game design requiring it.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by 1075guy

I still doubt a shift away from 28x38" unless there's some radical game design requiring it.

I would imagine that something similar was said in late 2004.

[Robert Cawthon]

From Madison on the First Email Blast forum:

Originally Posted by Madison

KOP Dimensions

Please make sure you have enough space available in your vehicle to accommodate the Kit of Parts. Quantities, dimensions and weight are listed below:

2 plastic totes: (27" x 17" x 12" each) 34 lbs each
1 Long box (6" x 6" x 36") 22 lbs
1 Square box (10 x 10 x 10) 30 lbs
1 Control System Box (24 1/4" x 15 1/2" x 12") 26 lbs (if not received early)
2 small boxes less than 5lbs. each

Tip! Bringing a dolly can be very helpful

Thanks Madison.

[wilsonmw04]

Bill's blog says something a tad different.

4 small items (less than 5 lb total)

why would we need 4 game pieces?

[gorrilla]

last year we put it all in the back of Hammi's(mentor) pickup and we still had room......

we might try and fit it in justins civic..........

[wilsonmw04]

we fit last year's in a Protege. Now that was fun :-)

[Bochek]

I put last years in my Mx-3 with a passenger too, doing it again this year i think.

[s_forbes]

Originally Posted by Bill's blog

4 small items (less than 5 lb total)

This sounds suspiciously like some sort of inflatable sports ball. Football anyone?

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by wilsonmw04

Bill's blog says something a tad different.



why would we need 4 game pieces?

More likely, it's 4 miscellaneous items that came in too late to be packed in the kit totes.