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Robots design?

Do you guys think the robots this year will be similar to 2006 Aim High?
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Re: Robots design?

i could see it just because of the task we have.
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Re: Robots design?

I'm not sure, I could see alot of teams designing robots like Aim High, but my team seems to think that it would be almost impossible to shoot the rocks a good distance, let alone accurately into a moving target.
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Re: Robots design?

Yeah, but most likely people wouldn’t shoot the balls very far though. And I think the methods of picking up the balls off the floor would be similar.
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Re: Robots design?

If we can throw the balls across our shop pretty far and accurately, I think there's teams out there that can build shooters that do the same.

Also, yeah, I can imagine this being similar to Aim High, and we've definitely considered redesigning our '06 bot.
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Re: Robots design?

What about 2002?
The goals are similar in design to them.
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What about 2002.
The goals are similar in design to them.
Exactly...more like Zone Zeal then anything else.
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Yeah, but most likely people wouldn’t shoot the balls very far though. And I think the methods of picking up the balls off the floor would be similar.
agreed, I am remembering ideas from 2006 for how to get the balls off the ground, however I don't think there is accurcy in shooting them, but maybe I'm wrong...
I'm thinking more of a basket that dumps the balls, kind of like the robot in the animation.
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Re: Robots design?

I would go with conveyers to pick up the balls, and a basket dump at the top.

Also, some kind of rollers or claw to "latch" onto opponent goals can help (not sure if it's legal).
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Also, some kind of rollers or claw to "latch" onto opponent goals can help (not sure if it's legal).
no, that is in voilation of grabbing onto an arena structure, <G29>
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Re: Robots design?

I can't think of a way to shoot the balls. The most effective way to shoot in Aim High was feeding a ball through 2 pairs of spinning wheels but with these orbit balls I see a number of problems. It would be difficult to apply pressure, as they deform (and break) easily. Furthermore they do not have a uniform surface, to shots will be inconsistent. And, the fabric covering will decrease traction (especially compared to the rubbery foam in the nerf balls). I really can't imagine an effective shooter based on a softball pitcher model.The best I can think of is a catapult style shooter that I remember one team had in 2006.
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The best I can think of is a catapult style shooter that I remember one team had in 2006.
that seems really hard to get accurate....
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Re: Robots design?

Thinking outside of the box for this one wasn't a problem for us.
Building outside of it, well, that should be interesting...
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I can't think of a way to shoot the balls. The most effective way to shoot in Aim High was feeding a ball through 2 pairs of spinning wheels but with these orbit balls I see a number of problems. It would be difficult to apply pressure, as they deform (and break) easily. Furthermore they do not have a uniform surface, to shots will be inconsistent. And, the fabric covering will decrease traction (especially compared to the rubbery foam in the nerf balls). I really can't imagine an effective shooter based on a softball pitcher model.The best I can think of is a catapult style shooter that I remember one team had in 2006.
I think you could still use a softball pitcher design, but yeah I think you are right about accuracy. But like Dean said, there will be some luck involved. I think that as long as you shoot enough balls in the general vicinity of your target, then luck might be on your side.
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I think you could still use a softball pitcher design, but yeah I think you are right about accuracy. But like Dean said, there will be some luck involved. I think that as long as you shoot enough balls in the general vicinity of your target, then luck might be on your side.
Luck is going to be a big factor this year, with the slipperiness of the ball and its poor durability any shooter is going to shoot every ball with a different velocity. Although if a team finds out how to successfully shoot a ball with accuracy, then they have made one heck of a bot.
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