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Re: Super Cell Scoring Question posted 2X by me on Q&A but no reply??

Hence the thread title- I already posted 2X- I'm one of the lead mentors, and posted the question 2X (yes using the passwd) but have yet to hear a peep.
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Re: Super Cell Scoring Question posted 2X by me on Q&A but no reply??

Wish I had seen your post yesterday. I posted the same question late last night.

We were cruising along on our strategy until someone asked the simple question: where does it say robots are allowed to score super cells?

Hopefully the GDC will give word soon. Seems like robots should be allowed to score such a high value game piece.
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Re: Super Cell Scoring Question posted 2X by me on Q&A but no reply??

I don't have the rules in front of me, but what I remember is this.

The payload player is given a super cell in exchange for an empty cell.

The empty cells start with the outpost player.

SO, sometime during the match, the outpost player gives an empty cell to a robot, (hence the little opening in the outpost wall) the robot takes it to the payload specialist, and once there, a (judge, ref, etc) takes it and replaces it with a supercell.

Now, since supercells can only be thrown in the last 20 seconds of a match, the chances of a robot collecting a missed supercell AND making it into a trailer is highly unlikely.

So i guess there doesn't need to be a rule against a robot scoring a supercell, cause there is practically no way it will happen.
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Re: Super Cell Scoring Question posted 2X by me on Q&A but no reply??

I expect a team update on Tuesday at the latest.

*crosses fingers*
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Re: Super Cell Scoring Question posted 2X by me on Q&A but no reply??

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SO, sometime during the match, the outpost player gives an empty cell to a robot, (hence the little opening in the outpost wall) the robot takes it to the payload specialist, and once there, a (judge, ref, etc) takes it and replaces it with a supercell.
This is a common misconception and is incorrect. Each FUELING STATION contains a CELL RACK. At each fueling station there are two SUPER CELLS, hung on one side of the CELL RACK. After a robot delivers an EMPTY CELL to a PAYLOAD SPECIALIST located at one of the FUELING STATIONS, the EMPTY CELL is then placed on the CELL RACK, opposite from one of the SUPER CELLS. A SUPER CELL can only be used/removed from the CELL RACK if there is an EMPTY CELL opposite it (see <G13> and <G22>).

The EMPTY CELL is never physically taken away from the PAYLOAD SPECIALIST. This is important because the PAYLOAD SPECIALIST is not required to exchange the EMPTY CELL for a SUPER CELL (<G22> reads may be exchanged. . .) Thus, the PAYLOAD SPECIALIST may decide to reenter the EMPTY CELL into to the CRATER.

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Now, since supercells can only be thrown in the last 20 seconds of a match, the chances of a robot collecting a missed supercell AND making it into a trailer is highly unlikely.

So i guess there doesn't need to be a rule against a robot scoring a supercell, cause there is practically no way it will happen.
I beg to differ.
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Re: Super Cell Scoring Question posted 2X by me on Q&A but no reply??

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Hence the thread title- I already posted 2X- I'm one of the lead mentors, and posted the question 2X (yes using the passwd) but have yet to hear a peep.
I don't know if it's necessary to post twice- they will read all the questions. They have been unusually slow about answering, though, and I'm not sure why that is happening. It's incredibly frustrating.


To answer your original question though, it doesn't say anywhere (specifically) that a robot cannot score a supercell. However, it doesn't say that it can't either. (Also, I don't see why a robot wouldn't be allowed to score a game piece...) I never had any doubts that robots were allowed to score supercells.
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Re: Super Cell Scoring Question posted 2X by me on Q&A but no reply??

So counting me and Doug Adams, the question has been submitted 3X to the Q&A system-

Still no answer.... They seem to be answering a lot of other questions....
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Re: Super Cell Scoring Question posted 2X by me on Q&A but no reply??

I imagine the GDC has hundreds if not thousands of questions to sift through, consolidate, edit, and answer. I don't know how many GDCers there are on the FIRST forums, and I'm guessing they all have 'real jobs' in their lives as well. Our team has posed about a half dozen questions and have seen no response; I'm not too concerned. I believe they'll get to it when they get to it, and once again the GDC is teacing us a valuable lesson - patience is a virtue.
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