Go to Post God Bless the referees. - MooreteP [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > General Forum
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 21-01-2009, 15:38
Brandon_L Brandon_L is offline
The color orange triggers me
AKA: Brandon Liatys
FRC #2180 (Zero Gravity)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Newark, NJ
Posts: 1,191
Brandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond repute
NASA should broadcast matches

You know how NASA kindly broadcasts the kickoff? They should also broadcast the matches. Like maby pick one of the regionals each week (can't broadcast more then one at a time...) and the finals in Georgia....that would be so cool
Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 21-01-2009, 15:40
EricH's Avatar
EricH EricH is offline
New year, new team
FRC #1197 (Torbots)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: SoCal
Posts: 19,720
EricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond repute
Re: NASA should broadcast matches

Webcasts, my friend, webcasts. Hopefully Brandon has the link to them on the portal this year too. (Then again, last year I used SOAP Gameday to watch multiple regionals at once on the web.)
__________________
Past teams:
2003-2007: FRC0330 BeachBots
2008: FRC1135 Shmoebotics
2012: FRC4046 Schroedinger's Dragons

"Rockets are tricky..."--Elon Musk

Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 21-01-2009, 15:42
Brandon_L Brandon_L is offline
The color orange triggers me
AKA: Brandon Liatys
FRC #2180 (Zero Gravity)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Newark, NJ
Posts: 1,191
Brandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond repute
Re: NASA should broadcast matches

I use the webcasts but I mean come on how cool would it be to flip to discovery and see FIRST

Last edited by Brandon_L : 21-01-2009 at 15:51.
Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 21-01-2009, 15:48
EricH's Avatar
EricH EricH is offline
New year, new team
FRC #1197 (Torbots)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: SoCal
Posts: 19,720
EricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond repute
Re: NASA should broadcast matches

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon_L View Post
I use the broadcasts but I mean come on how cool would it be to flip to discovery and see FIRST
Back in the day, ESPN covered Championships... Discovery Canada covers GTR... various public local stations do spot coverage here and there.
__________________
Past teams:
2003-2007: FRC0330 BeachBots
2008: FRC1135 Shmoebotics
2012: FRC4046 Schroedinger's Dragons

"Rockets are tricky..."--Elon Musk

Reply With Quote
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 21-01-2009, 16:04
artdutra04's Avatar
artdutra04 artdutra04 is offline
VEX Robotics Engineer
AKA: Arthur Dutra IV; NERD #18
FRC #0148 (Robowranglers)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Greenville, TX
Posts: 3,078
artdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond reputeartdutra04 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: NASA should broadcast matches

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon_L View Post
You know how NASA kindly broadcasts the kickoff? They should also broadcast the matches. Like maby pick one of the regionals each week (can't broadcast more then one at a time...) and the finals in Georgia....that would be so cool


NASA already does this...
__________________
Art Dutra IV
Robotics Engineer, VEX Robotics, Inc., a subsidiary of Innovation First International (IFI)
Robowranglers Team 148 | GUS Robotics Team 228 (Alumni) | Rho Beta Epsilon (Alumni) | @arthurdutra

世上无难事,只怕有心人.
Reply With Quote
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 21-01-2009, 16:40
Cory's Avatar
Cory Cory is offline
Registered User
AKA: Cory McBride
FRC #0254 (The Cheesy Poofs)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: May 2002
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: Redwood City, CA
Posts: 6,795
Cory has a reputation beyond reputeCory has a reputation beyond reputeCory has a reputation beyond reputeCory has a reputation beyond reputeCory has a reputation beyond reputeCory has a reputation beyond reputeCory has a reputation beyond reputeCory has a reputation beyond reputeCory has a reputation beyond reputeCory has a reputation beyond reputeCory has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Cory
Re: NASA should broadcast matches

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon_L View Post
I use the webcasts but I mean come on how cool would it be to flip to discovery and see FIRST
That would be Discovery, not NASA.

NASA already does that, as pointed out earlier.
__________________
2001-2004: Team 100
2006-Present: Team 254
Reply With Quote
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 21-01-2009, 17:00
XaulZan11's Avatar
XaulZan11 XaulZan11 is offline
Registered User
AKA: John Christiansen
no team
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Milwaukee, Wi
Posts: 1,326
XaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to XaulZan11
Re: NASA should broadcast matches

Other than the Championship (which usually gets cut off...) does NASA broadcast any other events on tv?

Anyway, if I were FIRST and was serious about spreading FIRST's message, I would webcast them and play them on usfirst.org. Not to knock the webcasts that we have had in the past, but they are not always of the best quality and aren't 100% reliable. I'll still watch them, but how many people not deeply invovled with FIRST does?

If the presidental inaguration, NBC's Sunday night football, NCAA tournament, and the Olympics (from China) be webcasted live with near tv quality, why can't FIRST? Maybe you could create a real nice player that includes team rankings, rules and links that explain FIRST. If I was a potential sponser, mentor, student, government official and I was showed a live, high quality, professional looking webcast, I would certianly be more impressed than a low quality ustreamtv link.

Again, I'm not being critical of the people and teams that spend plenty of time providing webcasts. Instead of providing webcasts to FIRST teams and people who cannot make competitions, webcasts could be used to introduce people to FIRST. I don't know all the inner-workings of FIRST, but I think this is something they should do.
Reply With Quote
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 21-01-2009, 17:03
Brandon_L Brandon_L is offline
The color orange triggers me
AKA: Brandon Liatys
FRC #2180 (Zero Gravity)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Newark, NJ
Posts: 1,191
Brandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond repute
Re: NASA should broadcast matches

^ that was the question I was asking, TV not web. You wanted more TV time for FIRST..

EDIT: also what you said would be great with the custom players and rankings....
Reply With Quote
  #9   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 21-01-2009, 17:06
Dave Flowerday Dave Flowerday is offline
Software Engineer
VRC #0111 (Wildstang)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Rookie Year: 1995
Location: North Barrington, IL
Posts: 1,366
Dave Flowerday has a reputation beyond reputeDave Flowerday has a reputation beyond reputeDave Flowerday has a reputation beyond reputeDave Flowerday has a reputation beyond reputeDave Flowerday has a reputation beyond reputeDave Flowerday has a reputation beyond reputeDave Flowerday has a reputation beyond reputeDave Flowerday has a reputation beyond reputeDave Flowerday has a reputation beyond reputeDave Flowerday has a reputation beyond reputeDave Flowerday has a reputation beyond repute
Re: NASA should broadcast matches

Quote:
Originally Posted by XaulZan11 View Post
If the presidental inaguration, NBC's Sunday night football, NCAA tournament, and the Olympics (from China) be webcasted live with near tv quality, why can't FIRST?
$$$$
Reply With Quote
  #10   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 21-01-2009, 17:17
EricH's Avatar
EricH EricH is offline
New year, new team
FRC #1197 (Torbots)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: SoCal
Posts: 19,720
EricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond repute
Re: NASA should broadcast matches

Quote:
Originally Posted by XaulZan11 View Post
If the presidental inaguration, NBC's Sunday night football, NCAA tournament, and the Olympics (from China) be webcasted live with near tv quality, why can't FIRST? Maybe you could create a real nice player that includes team rankings, rules and links that explain FIRST.
Get some sponsors for it and I'm sure something could be arranged. That is probably the #1 reason they are so professional-looking (besides being things that "everyone" is interested in).

That is also what we're trying to change. We want that type of exposure. But it comes at a price. Let's look at TV for a minute--just live TV, not webcasted. Webcasted gets the same sort of thing, but on another scale.

The first type of question TV stations would ask is, how long would we need? The second is, who's paying, and the third is, where do we put the commercials?

I can answer those questions, somewhat. In answer to the first one, all day, two straight days. Who would display us? Discovery? Yeah, right. FOX Sports? Doubt it. ESPN? They'll say, we tried already. The only stations that would show us for that kind of time are sports stations, and we aren't a sport (in some estimations), or there are other sports wanting the time.

I don't have an answer for the second. Hence the finding sponsors comment.

For the third: you have two options: compress the matches after the fact and split between matches, or put the commercials between the matches. Problem with the latter: commercial time = time of show. TV station likes it, viewers hate it, TV station loses viewers. Problem with the former: needs editing.

My solution might work for Discovery: Follow a team all season, maybe 3-4. This would need consent of the team(s) involved. Edit after the season, then show the next fall as teams start up. Format similar to "Deadliest Catch", say. Include the matches. Or you could just do the competitions that way.
__________________
Past teams:
2003-2007: FRC0330 BeachBots
2008: FRC1135 Shmoebotics
2012: FRC4046 Schroedinger's Dragons

"Rockets are tricky..."--Elon Musk

Reply With Quote
  #11   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 21-01-2009, 17:24
Brandon_L Brandon_L is offline
The color orange triggers me
AKA: Brandon Liatys
FRC #2180 (Zero Gravity)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Newark, NJ
Posts: 1,191
Brandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond repute
Re: NASA should broadcast matches

^that's a good idea, follow a few teams through the season! If only we could convince them to do that ;_;

Yeah that would be great....follow a diffrent team each year...
Reply With Quote
  #12   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 21-01-2009, 17:25
XaulZan11's Avatar
XaulZan11 XaulZan11 is offline
Registered User
AKA: John Christiansen
no team
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Milwaukee, Wi
Posts: 1,326
XaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond reputeXaulZan11 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to XaulZan11
Re: NASA should broadcast matches

[quote=EricH;805385]

I can answer those questions, somewhat. In answer to the first one, all day, two straight days. Who would display us? Discovery? Yeah, right. FOX Sports? Doubt it. ESPN? They'll say, we tried already. The only stations that would show us for that kind of time are sports stations, and we aren't a sport (in some estimations), or there are other sports wanting the time.

QUOTE]

Yeah, I don't think tv is the answer. People are increasingly watching tv online. Also, its not like FIRST is geared toward the population that are still learning how to use email. I think FIRST's target would certianly 'get' the webcast.

While the quality has to be good and a professional looking site/player, I don't think the video itself has to be changed too much from the current webcast. I think you could have the couple minutes of break inbetween matches. On tv this wouldn't work, but on a webcast I think its acceptable.
Reply With Quote
  #13   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 21-01-2009, 17:28
Brandon_L Brandon_L is offline
The color orange triggers me
AKA: Brandon Liatys
FRC #2180 (Zero Gravity)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Newark, NJ
Posts: 1,191
Brandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond reputeBrandon_L has a reputation beyond repute
Re: NASA should broadcast matches

http://corporate.discovery.com/contact/producers/

Just throwing that out there.
Reply With Quote
  #14   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 22-01-2009, 01:08
Barry Bonzack's Avatar
Barry Bonzack Barry Bonzack is offline
Impossible to rain on my parade.
FRC #1902 (Exploding Bacon)
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 1,776
Barry Bonzack has a reputation beyond reputeBarry Bonzack has a reputation beyond reputeBarry Bonzack has a reputation beyond reputeBarry Bonzack has a reputation beyond reputeBarry Bonzack has a reputation beyond reputeBarry Bonzack has a reputation beyond reputeBarry Bonzack has a reputation beyond reputeBarry Bonzack has a reputation beyond reputeBarry Bonzack has a reputation beyond reputeBarry Bonzack has a reputation beyond reputeBarry Bonzack has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Barry Bonzack
Re: NASA should broadcast matches

Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH View Post
My solution might work for Discovery: Follow a team all season, maybe 3-4. This would need consent of the team(s) involved. Edit after the season, then show the next fall as teams start up. Format similar to "Deadliest Catch", say. Include the matches. Or you could just do the competitions that way.
In 2003 Discovery's Science Channel followed teams 339, 254, and 1224. They showed match video of the teams, and did an excellent job covering their experience. Clips from this special have been used in many FIRST promotional videos ever since.

Link to the video
__________________


Chair of Florida FIRST Alumni
Orlando Regional Planning Committee
FIRST Tech Challenge Florida Leadership Team

Program Planner on the Orion Spacecraft at the Kennedy Space Center

Twitter: @FL_FIRST_Alumni













Events I'm Emceeing/Game Announcing:
1/10/2015 FTC Jacksonville League Championship
1/11/2015 FTC Central FL Tesla League Championship
1/17/2015 FTC South Florida League Championship
1/24/2015 FTC Tampa/St. Pete League Championship
2/7/2015 FLL Orlando Regional
2/14/2015 FTC State Championship
2/26-2/28/15 FRC South Florida Regional
3/8/2015 FLL State Championship
3/12-3/14/15 FRC Orlando Regional
4/22-4/25/15 FIRST World Championship Event - FTC Franklin Field

Last edited by Barry Bonzack : 22-01-2009 at 01:11.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
nasa broadcast SlaveOfChernobl General Forum 16 04-01-2003 18:12
NASA TV Broadcast of Regionals archiver 2001 6 24-06-2002 01:32
NASA BROADCAST archiver 2000 4 23-06-2002 22:59
NASA Broadcast of Kick-off archiver 2000 1 23-06-2002 22:19
NASA Broadcast archiver 1999 3 23-06-2002 21:51


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 16:09.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi