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Re: Dumpers?

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We're doing a shooter. We figured it may be difficult in the later rounds to find an opponent that would graciously hold their trailer still long enough to show how good our imaginary dumper could be .

Getting a good idea about how robots and trailers will actually interact in this game is a difficult feat of extrapolation that makes my brain hurt. Does anyone have any video of scrimmages yet?
Who said anything about them graciously holding their trailer still? I expect to see dumpers gang up, bully, and push their opponents into a pinning situation.

I look forward to seeint the Astros shooter and tracking system in action at BAE. Good luck to y'all.
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Re: Dumpers?

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Who said anything about them graciously holding their trailer still? I expect to see dumpers gang up, bully, and push their opponents into a pinning situation.

I look forward to seeing the Astros shooter and tracking system in action at BAE. Good luck to y'all.
It will be interesting to see the composure of winning alliances and how well alliances can coordinate attacks and defensive maneuvers. This is my first year but my limited exposure to scrimmages (River Rage) and youtube videos for 2008 Overdrive is that it was difficult to recognize much successful alliance coordination. There are so many different potential components of scoring and defense this year, that I expect initially successful strategies will need to change dramatically as opposing teams compute effective countermeasures.

Our strategy sub-team has spent many hours trying to imagine real matches and came up with some ideas about early strategies... It should be great fun to see how many can actually work in only 135 seconds !

Good luck to Wapack and the rest of the teams!
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Re: Dumpers?

Here's a test of our take on a powered dumper:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfgxWW6qvg0#

This uses FP's mated to 2 16:1 Banebots P60 transmissions (so far, so good with those ). The test was performed at full voltage.
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Re: Dumpers?

the one problems with hybrids is reloading as we found out. We don't have a re-loader so we will rely on the people to toss it into the top to resupply it since there is no room to put one in.
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Re: Dumpers?

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It will be interesting to see the composure of winning alliances and how well alliances can coordinate attacks and defensive maneuvers. This is my first year but my limited exposure to scrimmages (River Rage) and youtube videos for 2008 Overdrive is that it was difficult to recognize much successful alliance coordination. There are so many different potential components of scoring and defense this year, that I expect initially successful strategies will need to change dramatically as opposing teams compute effective countermeasures.

Our strategy sub-team has spent many hours trying to imagine real matches and came up with some ideas about early strategies... It should be great fun to see how many can actually work in only 135 seconds !

Good luck to Wapack and the rest of the teams!

maybe i'm wrong but i believe that in Overdrive the alliance coordination wasn't so important as it was in Rack 'N' roll (for example)... so if you look for 2007 matches you will find a huge amount of succesfull alliance coordination... I suggest you to take a look at the blue alliance (www.thebluealliance.net) or soap archive (I can't remember the website)...
there you can find many videos of matches...
I'm already imagining the games in atlanta... it will be great...
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Re: Dumpers?

a loader can load into the storage tank and have a lid of some sort or be tilted away form the load zone, but yes i agree dump is in the drivers lap and the shooting i assume would be terribly difficult for the programmers
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