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Re: Pre season competition alliance

"My ideal alliance would be 2 robots that can just score like crazy, each able to fill a goal in 2 seconds. The 3rd robot would be able to just pin everyone on the other team in the corner and hold them for the whole match. Human players able to consistently score from over 1/2 court, and it would be nice if the team colors of the 3 teams matched"

You can dream cant you?

But in all honesty, you are not necessarily going to have robots at the 1st week regionals capable of all out domination, and forming an ultimate alliance.

In my experience, 1st week regionals require 2 robots that are very ahead of the curve and thats about it to win. I've seen a regional final where 1 of the robots on the winning alliance did not move for the entire match. Uniting 2 teams decently ahead of the curve, and adding a 3rd robot that can at least drive with its head on straight will win a week 1 comp.
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Re: Pre season competition alliance

I say one power dumper, one shooter, a fridge bot (to store balls), and someone from the NBA would definitly win.
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Re: Pre season competition alliance

An alliance captain who knows what's up, a solid first pick to back it up, and a sufficient scouting system to get the diamond in the rough for the 3rd pick.

I'm betting on two high volume robots (dumpers or very fast shooters), and a third partner with average scoring ability, but high manuverability, with a very skilled human player and a very skilled drive team.
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Re: Pre season competition alliance

1 shooter, 1 dumper, and 1 good PS with a good empty/supercell manipulating robot
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Re: Pre season competition alliance

i think you could even get away with one amazing dumper and 2 boxbots / herders. all they have to do is go around and pin!
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Re: Pre season competition alliance

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i think you could even get away with one amazing dumper and 2 boxbots / herders. all they have to do is go around and pin!
I agree, as long as those boxbots have the drivers needed to keep from being scored on.
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Re: Pre season competition alliance

Kids kids kids...we find out in like 6 hours

Speaking of which...I need sleep...waking up in 3 hours. =P
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Re: Pre season competition alliance

Here's my prediction for NJ.
Team 25 will team up with 103 in '09. In '10, add 359 as their 3rd partner. hehe.
Oh! my bad, are we talking about types of robot alliances or teams that will align with each other.
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Re: Pre season competition alliance

I think the 1st pick will be more important than ever, especially if a good robot is making the pick. With the assumption that any robot can drive a good drive team can impart some very important strategies to the third team. You cannot however teach a second pick how to score as easily.

My thoughts are if you can get a good enough second pick, that the third picks will have a much smaller gap (like previous years) in talent. And if you have the best robot on your team, then it is not scoring on you, hopefully.

Plus if you can get two robots that can pin you can essentially turn it into a one on one match against the robot of your choice. i would take one of the best robots at the competition verses the opponent of my choice.

I am foreseeing more wins from the top 2 alliances (#1,2), and in deep fields we may see the well rounded teams of the last alliances (#7, 8) winning more than the middle 4 alliances.

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Re: Pre season competition alliance

Either

1.)Power dumper
2.)Power dumper
3.)Collector/Empty Cell specialist/Defensive Specialist

or

1.)Shooter
2.)Power dumper
3.)Collector/Empty Cell specialist/Defensive Specialist

Now this is what I think will be good for regionals, championship is a whole different story.
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