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Re: All the FRC Teams That Ever Were

Team 1714's name is a little out of date; we're no longer sponsored by NASA nor Team 1675.

(and it would be so fun to say "We're sponsored by UPS" )

Our current name should read: Quad Tech / Rockwell Automation / Siemens / Ladish Co. / Milwaukee SPE / Marquette University / American Nuclear Society RRSD / MSOE / GE Volunteers / ABB / American Acrylics USA LLC & Thomas More High School
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Re: All the FRC Teams That Ever Were

341 no longer has any association with Ortho-McNeil Pharmaceutical (and we haven't for several years).

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Re: All the FRC Teams That Ever Were

nice!! although, our team is now based out of DePere High school, WI and all of our sponsors have changed to
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Re: All the FRC Teams That Ever Were

It appears that several team names were gleaned from older versions of FIRST data, and sponsorships and/or HS names have changed.

ThunderChickens are indeed usually listed as being from Utica, as that is the school system. However their physical address may be Sterling Hts.

Team 264 would have been from Shelby Twp, not Shelby (two different communities in MI).

Mark, do you want information on the missing numbers? For instance, 2331 was the original number assigned to 1025 before it was determined that 1025 was not a rookie.
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Re: All the FRC Teams That Ever Were

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Mark, do you want information on the missing numbers? For instance, 2331 was the original number assigned to 1025 before it was determined that 1025 was not a rookie.
I'm a little torn. I started adding those numbers but it may just confuse things, since they all need an explaination to make sense. Your extra number number, for instance, was only for a month during registration shakeout.
I have another couple in there that registered, but dropped out before the competitions, so never played.

I was thinking of removing those "never played" numbers from this list.
I do have them preserved elsewhere. It's more something that should be added to a footnotes column.

What do you think?
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I started adding those numbers but it may just confuse things, since they all need an explaination to make sense. Your extra number, for instance, was only for a month during registration shakeout.
Yeah, these are not much different than the numbers between years that never got assigned, or this year when they skipped a whole bunch of even numbers at the beginning of registration.
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That might be different. For example, I know Detroit Catholic Central (located in Novi MI) signed up this year and got assigned as Team 2731, but they never played. Perhaps they didn't get funding. You might keep those numbers around; if they come back next year, will FIRST keep them as the same number?
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Re: All the FRC Teams That Ever Were

New version is posted.
I italicized the defunct teams. I'm not sure it adds anything. Too much mixing of regular font and italics, it all just sort of blends together.


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That might be different. For example, I know Detroit Catholic Central (located in Novi MI) signed up this year and got assigned as Team 2731, but they never played. Perhaps they didn't get funding. You might keep those numbers around; if they come back next year, will FIRST keep them as the same number?
Each year we get 20 or 30 teams who register, but fail to launch.
Offhand I'd guess that FIRST eventually just purges those unplayed numbers, however, the did maintain all that stuff for years and only began purging it from the public database in the last couple of seasons. BTW this seasons failure-to-launch teams are still there in the public FIRST database (e.g., 2731), but last years aren't (e.g., 2351, Mariner HS, Everett, WA). I don't know if FIRST maintains full data in their private database, but I suspect they must.
None of those teams who have been able to successfully start again later has ever gotten the original never-played number. They always get a new rookie number that matches the year they really do first play in.
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Re: All the FRC Teams That Ever Were

The name listed for team 241 is dated by about 6 or 7 seasons
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Re: All the FRC Teams That Ever Were

I'm impressed by this list. I've always wanted to do something like this, but I don't think I know the appropriate resources (nor would it be the best use of my time at this point in my life). This is really interesting, thanks for putting it together.

As others have mentioned, some of the team information is outdated- 1124 is sponsored by UTC Fire & Security and Avon High School (as opposed to cheetahlearning.com). Still, I'm incredibly impressed by the list, and will probably spend a great deal of time looking at it once finals have passed. I just learned that there was a team founded in 1997 in my hometown, which outdates the current team whose rookie year was in 2003. I don't know if anyone connected to the current team had any idea that another school in our town ever had a team. This is fascinating. Thank you so much for your work on this resource.
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Re: All the FRC Teams That Ever Were

Team 578 is now sponsored by The Gleason Works, not Eastman Kodak. I also think that our team was number 36 in our rookie year, and then 52 in '98 and '99.
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93 was 107 before they went to the permanent team #'s

and 857 was 221 but switched #'s when Anthony Lapp graduated from Mich. Tech.
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Re: All the FRC Teams That Ever Were

84, 222, and 284 were originally part of the same team, The Littles, from 7 ( ) small school districts in the northern tier of PA. I don't remember their number, but their only competition was Toroid Terror (Check spelliing!) in NJ.

84 broke away first to become SWATT, then WATTNESS, finally settling on Chuck 84.

222 broke away next, becoming The Tigertrons.

284 was the final core of the original and is based at Elk Lake High School.
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84, 222, and 284 were originally part of the same team, The Littles, from 7 ( ) small school districts in the northern tier of PA. I don't remember their number, but their only competition was Toroid Terror (Check spelliing!) in NJ.

84 broke away first to become SWATT, then WATTNESS, finally settling on Chuck 84.

222 broke away next, becoming The Tigertrons.

284 was the final core of the original and is based at Elk Lake High School.
tisk tisk....you don't remember We started out all together as 118 (yes FIRST recycles numbers) then when 84 broke away the team number was 143. The final split formed 222 and 284 in 1999. All three teams remain close. The splits were mainly due logistics and getting more students from each small school district involved.
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"118" wasn't a recycled number in the modern era. It was from 1997 when all team numbers were temporary. Nobody kept those pre-1998 numbers year-to-year. I treat those like the temporary number you hang on your chest for running the marathon.
I'm staying away from using any of those pre-1998 numbers or we'll never figure out who begat who.

FIRST actually logs team 143 as the team number for both 1997 and 1998. None of the temporary numbers are preserved in the FIRST Team database.
I have the 1997 list of temporary team numbers, but I don't think I have the list used in 1996. Does anyone else?

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Team 143 had these the schools and played in Torrid Terror and Ladder Logic.
  • Northeastern Educational IU19
  • Elk Lake HS
  • Lackawanna County Area Vocational Technical School
  • Lackawanna Trail HS
  • Tunkhannock Area HS
  • Troy Area HS
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84, 222, and 284 were originally part of the same team, The Littles, from 7 ( ) small school districts in the northern tier of PA. I don't remember their number, but their only competition was Toroid Terror (Check spelliing!) in NJ.

84 broke away first to become SWATT, then WATTNESS, finally settling on Chuck 84.

222 broke away next, becoming The Tigertrons.

284 was the final core of the original and is based at Elk Lake High School.
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