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VEX beats Tetrix and others in bid to develop a robotics competition for the TSA

The Technology Student Association (TSA) and Innovation First International Announce a Partnership to Introduce a Signature Robotics Competition Using the VEX Robotics Design System

Competition to Further Stimulate Middle School and High School Student Interest in Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics (STEM)

GREENVILLE, Texas--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Innovation First International, creators of the largest and fastest growing middle and high school robotics program, and the Technology Student Association (TSA), a national organization dedicated to increasing technological literacy in middle school and high school students, today announced the creation of a national robotics competition that will bring Innovation First’s VEX Robotics Design System to 150,000 TSA students across the country.

The TSA VEX Robotics Competition will provide students with a hands-on co-curricular competition for learning about science, technology, engineering and mathematics (STEM) and will complement the existing technology-related competitions offered by TSA. TSA VEX Robotics tournaments will be conducted in conjunction with the organization’s state conferences beginning in spring 2010 in approximately ten states followed by a championship event at the National TSA Conference in Baltimore, Maryland, which will be held on June 28 through July 2, 2010. TSA anticipates additional states will host events in the 2010-2011 school year.

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Today 150,000 students, already interested in STEM, have direct access to affordable and accessible head-to-head robotics competition (and related curricular and co-curricular experiences) for the first time. Out of all that I've ever been involved with related to robotics competition and education this is by far the most important contribution, albeit small in comparison to many others, I've ever made. I'm very proud to have played a small role in supporting this partnership and venture and look forward to see how things flourish from this starting point.
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Re: VEX beats Tetrix and others in bid to develop a robotics competition for the TSA

It's my personal opinion that the Tetrix "Kit" is horrible and about twice as costly as it should be. TSA choosing Vex was a no-brainer. Palm Bay High students have been using vex parts for TSA events for years.
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Re: VEX beats others in bid to develop a robotics competition for the TSA

I know that life is rarely simple or one-dimensional; but I occasionally like to view the Vex program as one of FIRST's most compelling success stories.

We all build on the big and small accomplishments of those who have come before us.

I suggest today is a good day to pause and pass out pats-on-the-back for everyone inspiring students.

I say this to the hard-charging team at IFI (plus a zillion volunteers), to the culture-changing team at FIRST HQ (plus a zillion volunteers), to the public servants at NASA, at the Patent Office, in halls of our government, in our schools, and in our other institutions, to the corporate sponsors that invest in their/our futures, to the other complementary robotics/STEM programs, to everyone involved

Today is a good day.

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Re: VEX beats others in bid to develop a robotics competition for the TSA

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I know that life is rarely simple or one-dimensional; but I occasionally like to view the Vex program as one of FIRST's most compelling success stories.
I would disagree. I would have to say the Vex is on of FIRST's most compelling screw ups. FIRST shot themselves in the foot big time when they moved to the Tetrix platform.

I have yet to find an FTC team that does not complain about how expensive and cumbersome the Tetrix platform is. Many well established FTC teams are considering or have already moved to VRC.

Look at how poorly the FTC FMS ran last year. By Atlanta, teams had to bring their own laptops to the field and run their robots outside of the FMS. This did not leave a good feeling in many of the FTC teams that competed at Championships last year.

Without a doubt, Vex is kicking the snot out of FTC/Tetrix. Look at how many more VRC teams there are, look at how many more VRC tournaments there are, look at the projected growth numbers. VRC is winning in every category. Way to go IFI, keep up the good work. Congrats on this partnership!
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I would disagree. I would have to say the Vex is on of FIRST's most compelling screw ups. FIRST shot themselves in the foot big time when they moved to the Tetrix platform. ...
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Sounds like what you are telling me is that the Tetrix product line that FTC uses is still having growing pains; but that the VEX products that IFI, Radio Shack and FIRST collaborated to create and initially popularize, are doing well.

Hence, to the extent that FIRST played a large role in getting Vex off the ground, the Vex product line is a success story for FIRST (and everyone else involved).

Whether FIRST's decision to stop using Vex in the FTC was wise (given what is known publicly) - Well, that horse has already been thoroughly beaten.

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Re: VEX ...bid to develop a robotics competition for the TSA

This is not another "Tetrix vs Vex" thread (despite the title).

Great job IFI team in all of the effort given to promote science and technology, and inspiring thousands of students at a low cost!
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I'm pretty excited about all the TSA students starting with the program. We have a large number of TSA groups in Pennsylvania. It will be cool to go to their contests and see what ideas they have.

As a bonus it's another huge pool of students that may get interested in robotics and then feed into FRC. At the least it's a start in getting students interested in engineering.

Congrats go to IFI for not only having a great product in VEX, but also having a marketing team to make deals like this. While we all think that robotics and VEX sell themselves, it takes a huge marketing and sales push to get this kind of commitment.
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Congrats go to IFI for not only having a great product in VEX, but also having a marketing team to make deals like this. While we all think that robotics and VEX sell themselves, it takes a huge marketing and sales push to get this kind of commitment.
While there is truth in this statement, it was National TSA that went seeking a "signature robotics event" in this case, first asking questions very informally as far back as three years ago, evaluating all of its options, then beginning formal talks a year ago with IFI. TSA has been looking to add head-to-head robotics competition to its long list of competitive STEM events for awhile and really did their homework on this one, so let's give credit where credit is due. On the IFI side it was a matter of recognizing the obvious fit, listening closely to TSA's vision and needs and delivering on something that's a good fit for all. This is the main reason I enjoy my consulting work with IFI so much - vision and meeting needs of the customer.

If you think you like what you've read about in the announcement so far, just wait - there's more to come.
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Actually, in a way FIRST can be acknowledged for much of the success and the successful rate that VEX is growing and making inroads in areas and schools. Many of the people that are passionate about VEX and who are growing it, currently have very strong ties to FIRST and are products, themselves, of the FIRST program, initiative, philosophy,competitions or have been - taking their experiences and knowledge gained from one program and pouring them into another.

It doesn't have to be a versus situation but will remain so as long as it is treated as such.

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