Go to Post Use the mentor to lay down the law. They're not there to be your friends they're there to keep the kids focused on the job at hand. - Koko Ed [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > General Forum
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 14-01-2010, 00:12
Creator Mat Creator Mat is offline
Registered User
FRC #2338 (Gear it Forward)
Team Role: Leadership
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Aurora Illinois
Posts: 178
Creator Mat is a jewel in the roughCreator Mat is a jewel in the roughCreator Mat is a jewel in the roughCreator Mat is a jewel in the rough
Variations of the Bumps?

My team is wondering do we know the expected tolerances with the height and angle of the bumps? I remember reading about some variance but couldn't figure out if they where exceptions or the rule
__________________

2010 Midwest Spirit award
2010 Midwest Quarterfinalists
2010 Wisconsin Quarterfinalists
2009 Midwest Finalists
2009 Wisconsin Quarterfinalists
2008 Midwest Rookie AllStars
Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 14-01-2010, 00:13
JamesByrne's Avatar
JamesByrne JamesByrne is offline
Registered User
FRC #0360 (The revelution)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: Tacoma
Posts: 74
JamesByrne is on a distinguished road
Re: Variations of the Bumps?

in the field drawings it says the tollerances the field is built to.

The size of the components is +- 1/32 nd of an inch

and the angles are +- .25 degree

I think those numbers are right, I am trying to remember them off the top of my head.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 14-01-2010, 00:31
Tristan Lall's Avatar
Tristan Lall Tristan Lall is offline
Registered User
FRC #0188 (Woburn Robotics)
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Rookie Year: 1999
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 2,484
Tristan Lall has a reputation beyond reputeTristan Lall has a reputation beyond reputeTristan Lall has a reputation beyond reputeTristan Lall has a reputation beyond reputeTristan Lall has a reputation beyond reputeTristan Lall has a reputation beyond reputeTristan Lall has a reputation beyond reputeTristan Lall has a reputation beyond reputeTristan Lall has a reputation beyond reputeTristan Lall has a reputation beyond reputeTristan Lall has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Variations of the Bumps?

Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesByrne View Post
in the field drawings it says the tollerances the field is built to.

The size of the components is +- 1/32 nd of an inch

and the angles are +- .25 degree
Don't rely upon those tolerances!

Although FIRST surely put a lot of effort into preparing the field plans, those are wholly inappropriate tolerances for many of the dimensions given. They're not impossible, they're just impractical and unlikely to have been followed, especially for assemblies. (FIRST has never been very good at providing sensible tolerances for the dimensions in the game manual and drawings.)

Consider instead the advice of 6.1.1: "Fit and tolerance on large assemblies (e.g. the TOWER) are ensured only to within ¼ inch. Overall gross dimensions of the entire field may vary up to 4 inches. Successful teams will design ROBOTS that are insensitive to these variations."
Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 14-01-2010, 00:38
gburlison gburlison is offline
Mentor
FRC #0662 (Rocky Mountain Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Rookie Year: 2000
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 245
gburlison is a name known to allgburlison is a name known to allgburlison is a name known to allgburlison is a name known to allgburlison is a name known to allgburlison is a name known to all
Re: Variations of the Bumps?

When you consider that the rules state that the bump is 12" tall, but the field drawing puts it at more than 13", whats a few extra 1/32 of an inch here or there.
__________________
Gordon Burlison - Mentor
662/Rocky Mountain Robotics
"Every silver lining's got a Touch of grey - Robert Hunter"
"No sense in being pessimistic, it wouldn't work anyway"
Reply With Quote
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 14-01-2010, 21:33
Dad1279 Dad1279 is offline
Registered User
FRC #1279 (Cold Fusion)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: NJ
Posts: 511
Dad1279 has much to be proud ofDad1279 has much to be proud ofDad1279 has much to be proud ofDad1279 has much to be proud ofDad1279 has much to be proud ofDad1279 has much to be proud ofDad1279 has much to be proud ofDad1279 has much to be proud ofDad1279 has much to be proud of
Re: Variations of the Bumps?

There were large differences in overdrive field 2 years ago. In some cases the overpass was inches lower in the center, and the field grew longer during the competition as robots rammed the drivers stations.

It would be prudent to build adjustments into your design
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Impact of Bumps BrianCloutier Rules/Strategy 4 15-01-2010 13:05
How do you run the pneumatics through the CRio w/o using the Jaguars and the Spikes brreadd Pneumatics 3 20-11-2009 15:35
[BB]: Regional Variations & Bagging It Mark McLeod General Forum 99 11-10-2009 00:13
From the Ice Age to Robot City. The Few, The Proud, The Machines (new movie) Elgin Clock Televised Robotics 21 14-03-2005 15:14
Womens Compeition Variations on field zarb OCCRA 4 25-11-2002 23:19


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 14:11.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi