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Unread 20-04-2010, 22:25
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Re: Galileo 2010

WOW!!!!
What happened to Archimedes and Curie stacked and power ranked to come out on top? Newton happened with Galileo pushing right behind!!!!

Congratulations to 67 / HOT and partners 294 & 177 for threading the needle and beating us in Einstein semis in the most competitive series in our recent history, and especially for going on to win in the finals, just an awesome performance in an incredibly tough and level field.

So many thanks to our alliance partners: Tyler and the crew of 2056/OP, the Canadians from Stoney Creek, a great bot (and one of the most talented and professional teams we've had the pleasure to work with) and to 3138 the Innovators from Ohio (I still can't believe you are a rookie bot, especially after the awesome D you played in zone 3 in ADDITION to clearing balls out for our side to score, I did not see better zone 3 play all season!). Tyler, congratulations on your regional Woodie Flowers award, that means a lot!

This alliance was one of the best matched to play this game. 2056 was on the top of our selection list from our first scouting meetings before leaving for Atlanta and stayed there all thru competition. 3138 was at and near the top for both of us for second pick, boy were we glad they were still around! When you can play the game with each bot doing their job so well in each zone that the balls flow without having to zone jump (watch our Einstein semi-finals match number 2) it is just poetry in motion! No robot waiting time, no ball bottlenecks, just constant smooth robot action. If 3138 hadn't gotten stuck in that last match......AUGGGGH!

More thank yous:

to 1717, 217, 188, 51, 78 and many others for playing with us and against us well in qualifiers, great teams all (nice lift 1717, love the gas shock)

to 2834 for helping us win one of our toughest qualifiers (I can't believe you weren't picked for the eliminations, one of the best zone one bots out there)

to the pirates from Colorado, it was fun being next to you in the pits

to 148 / 217 / JVN for the best concept for ball aquisition, which we were able to fine tune into a great ball handling system (thanks to Carrington, his dad, and blob tape)

to 16 / Bomb Squad for the inspiration of recycling the 08 track ball liner for our upper roller, another part of our great acquisition system, and for playing well with us in Kansas City along with the Metal Mustangs

Special thanks to 1732 / the Hilltoppers for, believe it or not, playing us hard to the point of breaking at Midwest. If you would not have done so, we in all likelyhood would not have discovered a significant weakness in our robot (chains taking a hike) with enough time to work out a solution before Championships!

to our partner drive teams in our last qualifier ( 2467 and 3352, the Flaming Monkeys ), for playing the game, with its' convoluted scoring system, to best advantage. The biggest advantage was to us, from a position where most would have considered you out of the game you made a decision which had a major impact, and unselfishly helped us to put together the alliance that won the division, no small thing. In anything we do in life we stand on the shoulders of others, some who have gone before us and some who are with us now. In addition to improving the record ranking score for all of us, you made a decision that had a major impact. You both gave us a shoulder to stand on, many thanks for an ultimate example of team play, it will not be forgotten and we look forward to playing with you in the future.

Sorry for the long post.... so much to say and so much left unsaid......(congrats to Chris Fultz on Woodie Flowers! great to see you in the pits UPS/Katy and Kevin!) All of us on Winnovation had a great time, thanks to all, especially FIRST, the organizers, volunteers, ref's and judges.

Look forward to seeing you all in St Louis next year!!!!!!!!!! (robot and other things willing)

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Re: Galileo 2010

After 20 hour bus ride home and getting 2 exams out of the way, I'm ready to jump back into the world of FIRST with a look back at an amazing Championship experience.

First off, congratulations to Team 341 on your Chairman's Award win. I've been following your team's activities pretty closely for a few years and like many people on these forums thought that you were more than due for the recognition that you received last weekend.

A hearty congratulations also goes out to Team 294, Team 67, and Team 177 on capturing the world championship. You guys were fabulous and took down an alliance that many people had favoured for a very long time.
That, however, should take nothing away from the incredible way that Team 1114, Team 469, and Team 2041 played. It's hard to believe that an alliance that had, arguably, the two best robots all year were unable to seal the deal. I, along with many others, long to know what would have happened had 2041 not gotten stuck in the goal. (A special thanks to Team 1114 for allowing a couple of our team members, including myself, the opportunity to watch Einstein with your team).

To the Galileo division champions, Team 1625, Team 2056, and Team 3138 (and the alliance that happened to bounce us from the eliminations): well done. You were the perfect synergy of offense and defense working together to systematically pick apart each alliance that you faced. For a while it looked like you had your ticket booked for the Einstein finals. To our Canadian friends, Team 2056, congratulations on finally clinching that elusive division banner, it'll look great next to the other 8 you've got lying around at your school, I'm sure. (Thanks also for working with us early each morning to secure the best seats in the house, particularly on Saturday).

To our alliance partners, Team 2016 and Team 1058, thank you and sorry. Though our run was short, the both of you were great to work with and executed perfectly. For not being able to do the same on our end (with a dead driver's station in the first match and a penalty in the second), we are truly sorry. I've got to take the blame for both situations, first for not having ensured our Classmate battery was secure and secondly for not calling our drivers off the balls when we got one stuck underneath us. Hopefully we'll get a chance to work together in the future, perhaps with some different results.

I could go through and list off all the amazing teams we had the opportunity to play with and against (and even those we only had the pleasure of watching on the field), but that may take a bit too time. I'll finish off by saying that Galileo was a blast. It was cool to meet up with so many of our friends from Curie last year (68, 79, 217, 1771, 1983), but also to meet a whole new set of teams. This year's showcase is over, but I'm already pumped for next year's Championship in St. Louis.
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Re: Galileo 2010

Hello Michigan from 548!

We are looking forward to joining 51, 68, 85, 107, 217, 503, and 2834 to take on the world......or a quarter of it anyway! Did I miss any Michiganders?
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Re: Galileo 2010

Looks like a great division!!! i cant wait to get down to Atlanta!!! and for the 3rd year in a row...there is the possibility of the cheese head alliance!

good luck everyone! cant wait to get started!!

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Re: Galileo 2010

Similar to what I did in previous years, I ran through 200 simulated qualification match schedules (all 144 matches, using the FIRST match generator). I used each team's average opr for their contribution to a match. I calculated the standings for each of the 200 simulated qualification schedules, and then looked at some statistics from the aggregate results.

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Team	Avg Rnk	Med Rnk	Mod Rnk	SD Rnk	Min Rnk	Max Rnk	#1 seed	Top 8	Avg SS	Med SS	Stdv SS	Min SS	Max SS
2056	1.415	1	1	0.88	1	6	151	200	237.725	240	15.67	192	271
188	2.77	2	2	1.70	1	11	39	199	217.67	216	17.21	178	261
1714	4.81	4	2	3.12	1	17	5	174	201.4	203	18.90	150	263
217	5.445	4	3	3.71	1	23	5	167	197.935	199	19.62	140	244
1625	10.53	9	6	5.68	2	30	0	87	174.625	175	19.36	125	217
1717	11.01	9	7	6.79	2	43	0	86	173.595	175.5	21.73	113	231
3138	10.135	9	5	6.32	2	34	0	98	176.32	176	22.08	123	228
1305	11.565	9	5	7.38	2	36	0	89	172	175	21.94	120	219
365	10.38	9	6	5.93	2	32	0	90	174.705	176	19.98	123	223
1086	11.555	10	7	6.10	2	29	0	78	171.475	173	19.93	127	214
1696	11.4	10	7	8.00	2	44	0	84	172.555	173.5	22.55	109	232
1058	22.325	21	14	11.19	3	55	0	12	144.68	145	23.52	90	216
230	20.96	19.5	13	10.36	3	54	0	16	146.76	148	22.20	88	214
56	20.85	18	16	10.79	3	57	0	17	147.375	151	22.53	87	221
2016	21.155	19	19	12.13	3	77	0	21	147.31	148	25.16	67	212
271	20.525	17	16	11.43	3	65	0	15	148.225	149	24.01	80	212
78	20.605	19	18	10.76	3	57	0	25	147.46	147.5	23.76	87	200
1466	20.75	20	21	11.22	2	64	0	25	147.605	145	24.47	79	212
63	20.295	18	14	10.36	3	58	0	17	148.345	147.5	22.39	91	210
694	20.27	18	9	11.90	3	56	0	28	149.175	150	25.55	91	213
2122	21.03	20	25	10.36	3	52	0	22	147.01	147	22.67	100	215
1735	19.975	19	8	9.32	4	52	0	22	148.02	147	21.16	93	201
100	35.52	33.5	35	15.08	7	79	0	3	119.8	119.5	23.87	56	174
51	35.37	33	31	14.85	6	75	0	2	120.255	119	24.34	60	184
1983	34.69	33	17	15.47	6	80	0	4	121.285	120	25.58	53	186
107	36.33	35	27	15.30	9	80	0	0	118.7	119	23.96	59	175
2834	33.785	32	25	14.71	7	76	0	2	123.015	122	23.83	66	179
292	35.965	33	43	15.11	5	78	0	1	119.4	120.5	24.03	49	184
2437	34.665	34.5	21	14.30	8	81	0	1	121.54	119	23.43	58	188
2036	34.365	32.5	26	15.54	6	74	0	2	122.51	123	25.41	69	189
79	36.925	36	29	15.44	6	80	0	3	117.76	117	24.40	54	193
744	35.495	34	33	13.98	13	83	0	0	119.09	120	21.53	51	166
433	36.1	33	30	14.54	9	80	0	0	119.065	118	22.45	53	179
503	33.795	31	26	13.90	4	70	0	3	122.685	122.5	22.91	72	201
2429	36.385	35	42	14.08	9	79	0	0	118.02	116.5	22.32	64	180
714	33.73	32	37	15.46	5	78	0	3	123.63	124.5	25.39	59	187
548	36.525	36	36	14.81	9	74	0	0	118.23	117	23.36	64	173
2130	36.08	34	37	13.98	9	71	0	0	118.815	120	22.02	75	182
1261	35.32	33	19	15.32	7	81	0	3	120.395	120.5	24.96	54	187
3381	33.95	31	38	14.42	11	78	0	0	122.41	123.5	22.71	63	171
1517	53.135	53	53	16.77	20	86	0	0	93.025	93.5	24.06	35	149
3310	51.275	51	51	16.67	15	84	0	0	95.605	97	24.24	36	159
3006	52.13	51.5	51	14.80	15	84	0	0	94.62	94.5	21.27	42	158
85	52.145	53	60	15.91	8	85	0	1	94.715	93.5	22.95	40	174
1584	52.095	51	44	17.14	15	86	0	0	94.615	94.5	24.67	34	151
752	53.195	55	58	17.33	15	86	0	0	93.43	91.5	25.24	36	160
68	51.93	51.5	44	15.91	14	84	0	0	95.15	95	22.57	45	159
263	52.965	52	46	14.97	20	85	0	0	93.535	94	21.33	32	146
1259	53	54	57	16.06	17	84	0	0	93.925	92	22.72	45	154
1816	54.315	55	65	15.76	15	86	0	0	91.41	91	22.45	32	159
2468	52.005	50.5	50	16.32	13	84	0	0	94.745	95	23.75	42	166
1771	52.605	51	38	15.84	15	84	0	0	94.07	94.5	22.10	39	151
900	52.11	51.5	50	16.34	16	85	0	0	94.78	94	23.29	43	152
3158	51.07	49.5	40	15.39	19	82	0	0	95.93	97	21.82	48	145
1002	53.64	53	72	15.91	14	86	0	0	92.42	94	22.88	24	158
3164	51.32	52	42	15.44	18	86	0	0	95.49	94	21.50	41	147
379	51.88	51	66	15.80	15	84	0	0	95.275	95	22.31	43	152
2108	52.6	52	50	16.13	13	84	0	0	94	93	22.90	43	155
649	53.74	55	47	16.31	17	85	0	0	92.455	89.5	23.26	40	158
1403	52.51	52.5	52	16.28	13	85	0	0	94.415	93	23.76	40	170
2839	52.125	53	55	15.76	19	85	0	0	94.755	94	21.69	42	148
3318	51.785	53.5	54	17.27	9	86	0	0	95.18	92.5	25.44	26	178
1522	53.17	54	58	16.37	14	86	0	0	92.965	92.5	23.92	31	166
1446	49.525	49	39	15.98	15	81	0	0	98.355	98.5	22.38	49	157
228	67.985	72	76	13.94	27	86	0	0	71.105	69	21.75	20	128
3352	68.63	71	73	12.40	20	86	0	0	70.61	69	18.76	29	144
2500	69.12	73.5	74	13.95	17	86	0	0	69.535	68	21.50	24	149
2077	69.555	72	86	12.57	32	86	0	0	68.65	66.5	20.57	21	126
702	68.245	72	85	14.15	29	86	0	0	70.355	68	22.09	22	127
348	71.685	73.5	81	10.82	39	86	0	0	65.7	65	17.78	21	108
648	68.165	71	75	13.19	21	86	0	0	71.02	69	20.27	25	136
957	69.47	72	81	12.31	37	86	0	0	69.08	65.5	19.30	26	115
2283	67.88	70	80	13.33	25	86	0	0	71.34	71	20.68	14	129
3204	69.135	71	72	12.24	34	86	0	0	69.245	69.5	19.79	22	122
1739	69.34	72	85	13.43	18	86	0	0	68.3	68	21.87	18	146
1474	68.92	72	85	13.68	22	86	0	0	69.735	66	21.45	22	142
2486	68.43	72	73	13.01	19	86	0	0	70.675	67	20.31	16	147
2067	69.215	72	73	12.64	31	86	0	0	68.835	68.5	20.44	24	125
3132	69.505	72	82	12.58	23	86	0	0	68.505	68	20.07	19	139
3364	70.13	73	81	12.70	28	86	0	0	67.69	66	20.04	21	119
2990	69.775	72.5	77	13.05	28	86	0	0	67.68	66	21.42	16	122
1367	68.87	70	83	12.34	28	86	0	0	70.07	70	19.33	24	134
3335	68.535	71	74	12.77	33	86	0	0	70.285	68	20.22	21	123
2467	80.355	83	86	6.76	54	86	0	0	47.315	46	16.53	14	93
1577	67.585	69.5	83	13.64	25	86	0	0	71.835	72	20.50	23	132
1657	69.45	72	84	13.13	30	86	0	0	68.855	68	20.78	23	118
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Re: Galileo 2010

Joe,

Thanks for the data. Did you use the average or weighed average?

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Thanks for the data. Did you use the average or weighed average?

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It was your weighted average.
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Re: Galileo 2010

I really hope im not spoiling any surprises (sorry Hadi if i do) but our robot is completely different so any simulations with us in it are pointless. First we took off the ramp. The only way that it won matches was because it caused penalties. Second the kicker is no longer winch driven but pneumatic driven (if we can fit it i dont know how). Third we are putting on an (unproven) arm lifter.
The only thing that is staying is the drive system (mechanums). (re doing the last 2 weeks in 6 hours should be fun)
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I really hope im not spoiling any surprises (sorry Hadi if i do) but our robot is completely different so any simulations with us in it are pointless.
Our team here probably is actually going to use our arm at Galileo so it probably skews our prediction too. Then again what is FIRST Robotics Competition without something always going wrong
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Re: Galileo 2010

TEAM 107 is looking forward to meeting all the teams in Galileo and making new friends. It’s been a really long time since we have had the chance to compete with 188 I personally look forward to that. We had a great time working with 1002 last year hope you guys are doing well?
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Our team here probably is actually going to use our arm at Galileo so it probably skews our prediction too. Then again what is FIRST Robotics Competition without something always going wrong
Just like the two above we've completely redesigned for about the 6th time I think. So our's should be alittle off too.

Anyway, this will be team 1522's second time down in Atlanta, we're excited to see everyone there. Good Luck to all the teams out there!
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Re: Galileo 2010

With so many heavyweight teams like 217 in this division, I cant see why it is being doubled, even tripled by other divisions threads! Lets get some spirit here, people!
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Re: Galileo 2010

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With so many heavyweight teams like 217 in this division, I cant see why it is being doubled, even tripled by other divisions threads! Lets get some spirit here, people!
Based on the previous post we are all too busy updating and modifying our robots to post on this thread but thats all about to change.
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Re: Galileo 2010

18hrs to go... or something like that.... 2016 is looking forward to being on galileo.. should be fun

it will be good to some friendly folks from 56, 694 among others and looking forward to hoping for a match with 217 since we played with their twin already seems appropriate we should at least get one match with them.

on a more serious note.. i think the division as a whole is being undervalued by some of the other divisions and it will be tougher than expected. I dont see any point in listing teams as all the teams have been mentioned and we have several multi regional winners and finalists here...
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