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Re: pic: Drivetrain Prototype

Hm...

What's the diameter of the wheels?

And what is the effective wheel base?

A lot of robotics in '09 were wide based, so this stance might be alright. But some teams took *this* design even further and turned it into a 6WD.

And also, you have a lot of supports, or spacers, running along the top of the chassis, it might also be benefitial to put some support along the bottom.

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Re: pic: Drivetrain Prototype

Make sure you add some cross supports to the bottom of the two plates. Right now if that thing takes a hit it's going to bend inward.

Your sprockets look large, if you reduce the size of the sprockets both off the gearbox and on the wheel you can save some weight (and space) and keep the same ratio.
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Re: pic: Drivetrain Prototype

I'm not particularly qualified to talk about drive chassis durability, so I don't have much to add.

However, I think I can save you some weight on this, or another drive train that you build. Having a pair of sprockets with built in hubs is heavy, and having those extra couple of inches of steel shaft is heavier. What you could do is take an AM hub and attach a pair of sprockets to it, spacing the sprockets with bits of plastic. Then just run enough shaft to cantilever the sprockets and hub.

A top down view would look like = []: () : ()

Where = is shaft, : are spacers, () are sprockets, and [] is the hub. Spaces are only there to prevent them from being turned into smilies.

Does that make sense?
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Re: pic: Drivetrain Prototype

You could save a bit more weight without losing much strength by changing all the X patterns into pairs of triangles. Your machinist will also thank you for doing that; fewer cuts means fewer opportunities for something to go haywire and less time before you get the plate back.

Also, I might ramp up the plate thickness a bit around high-stress areas--mounting points and axle attachment areas--or put a flange on, like you would do for sheet metal.
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Re: pic: Drivetrain Prototype

i would recommend against dually P80s. our team has used them in the past and found that they are hard to assemble, as well as grease migrating towards the motors and out of the planetary part of the gearbox. two single P80s would be better in my opinion.
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i would recommend against dually P80s. our team has used them in the past and found that they are hard to assemble, as well as grease migrating towards the motors and out of the planetary part of the gearbox. two single P80s would be better in my opinion.
Two single p80's per side? Or two total?

Also, we have never had issues with our p80's, though is the first year we have used them.
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Re: pic: Drivetrain Prototype

I would shy away from the p80's simply for the fact that the planetary transmissions are less efficient by design and arguably more fragile than standard toughboxes. You can easily buy all the parts necessary for direct drive from andymark as well and direct driving one wheel and chaining to the other would be the most reliable and lightest weight solution.
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I would shy away from the p80's simply for the fact that the planetary transmissions are less efficient by design and arguably more fragile than standard toughboxes. You can easily buy all the parts necessary for direct drive from andymark as well and direct driving one wheel and chaining to the other would be the most reliable and lightest weight solution.
yup, as long as it's properly tensioned 35 chain.
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yup, as long as it's properly tensioned 35 chain.
I'm not sure why, but we always use 25 chain
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25 chain is lighter, but less forgiving than 35 chain.
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