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Re: To go to Championships...or not....

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IB students, heads up: IB exams also start that Monday (May 2nd).

As my psych teacher said this year at our IB review session: If you don't know it by now it doesn't matter anyways.

Yes, rest and studying are important, but if you didn't know it the weekend before the test anyways...
Yeah, IB is the bigger concern on our team. Remember that if APs are the only/main tests that your school offers, that CollegeBoard offers late APs (as well as "Outstanding" aka late late APs) for conflicts. A discussion well ahead of time with CollegeBoard may help alleviate some of the conflicts with the championship.

As for IB, I really don't have any idea. With APs and IBs, 2nd year IB students are averaging 10 exams a year, and they're hitting the Outstanding APs even without FIRST events...
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For the college students - Sometimes (and I stress "sometimes") the professors will be willing to give you an exam on a different day given large enough notice. Since you know the dates of Championships already, speak with them the first day of class to see what your options are.
I've always been able to take exams early if I've needed to. Never later, but I must admit it was very nice to get the exams over and done with to enjoy whatever I was going to (usually an FSAE event).
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Re: To go to Championships...or not....

I've always been able to reschedule exams if needed, given a school-sponsored activity. It's really easy if you have 2 or 3 people who need to take the same exam at a different time than everybody else--I've had that a few times for Aero Design. Sometimes it'll be early and sometimes late, depending on professor. It'll almost always be a different exam, though.

Non-school-sponsored activities, though, are not as easy to work around.
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Re: To go to Championships...or not....

Tips for taking an exam:
  • If it's open-book, spend an hour to get organized: know where to find information.
  • If it's closed-book, memorize for it starting an hour ahead of time.
  • If it's math or science based, there isn't much you can do if you don't already understand the concepts already. Hence, memorizing the nuances is your best bet. Don't spend more than an hour on it.
  • Focus when studying; do not get distracted. A great pair of noise canceling headphones may help. Bose headphones & Pandora are my personal secret to doing my best work in short amounts of time.
  • Take the exam on an empty (but settled) stomach.
  • Bring small amounts of sugar as brain food and healthy snacks for in between exams.
  • If a student honestly expects to pass any of 7 consecutive AP exams in addition to being apart of a robotics team, why do we even question the ability to study? Let the overachievers achieve in their own way. Maybe they're destined for greatness, or maybe they're destined to suddenly realize their limitations.

Ergo, the team should attend the championships. The effects last longer and are further reaching than worrying about an exam. In the absence of extenuating circumstances, even a [bachelor's level*] college exam that takes more than a few hours to prepare for is an exam for a class the student should fail due to lack of understanding. FIRST should not count as an extenuating circumstance.
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Re: To go to Championships...or not....

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[*]If a student honestly expects to pass any of 7 consecutive AP exams in addition to being apart of a robotics team, why do we even question the ability to study? Let the overachievers achieve in their own way. Maybe they're destined for greatness, or maybe they're destined to suddenly realize their limitations.
This is an important point. Many high achieving students, skating by without studying a day in their life, will hit a brick wall when the material is finally hard enough to catch up with them. This has happened to so many people I know in college. If you think a student is careening toward that brick wall in high school, I would recommend that someone "talk some sense into them" to avoid being a victim of their own perfectionism, rather than assuming that because they are intelligent enough to get away with it before that they don't need your help. This may be a key situation to seriously consider disallowing or strongly discouraging a student from attending the Championship.
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As for IB, I really don't have any idea. With APs and IBs, 2nd year IB students are averaging 10 exams a year, and they're hitting the Outstanding APs even without FIRST events...
With IB there is no option to take the test on another date. Its a now-or-never deal.
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Re: To go to Championships...or not....

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With IB there is no option to take the test on another date. Its a now-or-never deal.
... That is with the exception of: a war in your respective testing region (country/city etc); a natural disaster (earthquake/hurricane/tornado etc); or if you're in an unstable health condition (ie. you're in the ER because you got run over by a car on the way to your exam) ...
You can't be late to an exam, either, as IB has strict policies regarding when you may begin the testing process - to within a 30-ish minute long period of time (all exams are taken on the same exact day at the same regional time all over the world, so IB is very particular about when an exam may start in a given te zone)

As far as students' abilities to sit multiple higher-level high school exams and attend CMP: if a student is committed to their studies throughout the course of the entire year, then I should think they'd be capable of attending an event such as CMP without suffering any adverse issues taking their exams (with maybe the issue of falling asleep during the exam - I was exhausted after I got back...)
EricH brought up the point of seeing how many students would be able to go to a competition given that exams are so close... I mentioned to my parents yesterday about how close CMP is to exams for he 2011 season and they told me that if I were to have had my exams so soon after a competition they would not allow me to attend. If there are not enough students allowed to attend the competition based upon the pretext that exams are so close (or any other reason), it would seem sensible to decide not to attend CMP... If not enough students can go to participate as a competing team, then it's not worth doing... That doesn't mean, however, that a small group could not attend just for the experience and for the conference.
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Re: To go to Championships...or not....

The exams that need to be done during the week of May 2nd are:
For everyone's information

Monday: AM Chemistry AND Environmental Science
(if you have both you can reschedule one or the other....)

PM Psychology

Tuesday: AM Computer Science A AND Spanish (see above)

PM Art History

Wednesday AM Calculus AB and BC

PM Chinese

Thursday AM English Lit and Composition

PM Japanese AND Latin

Friday AM German AND US History

PM European History and Studio Art

Note: Early testing or testing at times other than those published by the College Board are not permitted under any circumstances.
Coordinators should order late-testing exams for students who would like to take exams that are scheduled for the same time.
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Re: To go to Championships...or not....

Other considerations:

1. How will jet lag affect you? Coming from CA, our team had its sleep schedule turned upside down, and wasn't acclimated to either time zone. Result: insomnia & exhaustion for several test takers, resulting in poor scores. (Pro tip: disallow texting near the "edges of the night", as it does weird things to both the texters but and their roomies.)

2. If part of the team attends, how will that will the missing pieces affect the rest of the team? One year, our head programmer, head mechanical person, and head driver couldn't attend. Even though the team had the numbers to "be a team", the absence of key personnel tipped the scales so that even those students who had planned to go eventually decided not to.
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Re: To go to Championships...or not....

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The exams that need to be done during the week of May 2nd are:
For everyone's information

Monday: AM Chemistry AND Environmental Science
(if you have both you can reschedule one or the other....)

PM Psychology

Tuesday: AM Computer Science A AND Spanish (see above)

PM Art History

Wednesday AM Calculus AB and BC

PM Chinese

Thursday AM English Lit and Composition

PM Japanese AND Latin

Friday AM German AND US History

PM European History and Studio Art

Note: Early testing or testing at times other than those published by the College Board are not permitted under any circumstances.
Coordinators should order late-testing exams for students who would like to take exams that are scheduled for the same time.
Isn't AP Government usually on Monday morning?
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