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The Top Ten

What is best set of 10 team in the history FIRST.
That means teams numbered 1 to 10 in sets of ten. So it could be 101 to 110 or 1001 to 1010 or 2001 to 2010 for example. It's a set of teams within ten numbers of one another by 10 (no starting the count in the middle like 25 to 35 or something like that). Note: that does that mean there will be ten team in the count.
So which ten do you think is the best?
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Re: The Top Ten

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What is best set of 10 team in the history FIRST.
That means teams numbered 1 to 10 in sets of ten. So it could be 101 to 110 or 1001 to 1010 or 2001 to 2010 for example. It's a set of teams within ten numbers of one another by 10 (no starting the count in the middle like 25 to 35 or something like that). Note: that does that mean there will be ten team in the count.
So which ten do you think is the best?
So, like 61-70? 61 has taken home quite a few awards;63 may never have taken the top prize but they have built some quality machines;64 had some pretty good years; 65 was 2003 Champions; 66 2002 Champions; 67 2005, 2009, and 2010 Champions; 68 has also had some pretty good years; 69 consistently takes home prizes; and 70 (can I also count their sister team?) has been pretty strong too.

My only regret, I can't count 10 teams from 61...I could also push 71 in there too.
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So, like 61-70? 61 has taken home quite a few awards;64 had some pretty good years; 65 was 2003 Champions; 66 2002 Champions; 67 2005, 2009, and 2010 Champions; 68 has also had some pretty good years; 69 consistently takes home prizes; and 70 (can I also count their sister team?) has been pretty strong too.

My only regret, I can't count 10 teams from 61...I could also push 71 in there too.
You did it right.
No you can't count the Martians and obviously you cannot count Beatty. They go from 71 to 80.
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Re: The Top Ten

I nominate the 60s.
60 - Formerly dominant, still solid
61 - Decent team from the Northeast
63 - Regional winner this year, don't know much about them
65 - Former World Champions, live on as 51
66 - Former World Champions, solid Michigan team
67 - 2 consecutive World Champions plus another, always dominant
68 - Completely immovable.
69 - Very consistent and underrated, only not huge because they pass up the Championship
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Re: The Top Ten

Took a quick look, and I'd say 61-70. Even without including the Huskie Brigade, you have 6 Einstein appearances, 4 Championships Wins, 1 Championship Chairman's and 4 Division Finalists.
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Re: The Top Ten

Closest to 60 is 171-180

171 - Strong Wisconsin team, a few regional wins
172 - The other pink team!
173 - 2002 Champions, 2007 Einstein, cool robots with cool arms
174 -Won 2 FLRs in a row and Buckeye in 2006
175 - Incredibly consistent, won a regional or division every year they existed except 2002 (CCA) and 2010 (fluke)
176 - 1999 World Champion, various regional wins throughout the decade, always the underdog
177 - 5 consecutive years on Einstein is all you need to say.
178 - Decent Northeast team
179 - "176 of Florida" always puts out a cool and unique robot that's strong at a tough event
180 - Former greats that always try something cool every year, 2002 Finalists
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Re: The Top Ten

231-240 is another pretty strong set.
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Re: The Top Ten

Most accomplished group of 10 in the 4 digit range IMO goes to 171x...

1710 - 16 awards at 8 official events
1711 - Awards at every event 3 years running
1712 - Lots of awards - especially impressive given their veteran area
1714 - Multiple regional wins and regional chairman's
1716 - Multiple visualization awards
1717 - At least a finalist at every regional 3 years running
1718 - Powerful Michigan team
1719 - Umbrellas!
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Re: The Top Ten

I like the larger blocks of teams too that seem to appear, like
20,30,40,50,60,70,80,90
110,120,130
230,240
350,360,370

Most of these also benefit from longevity (but that's also the definition of a "best team"). It might be meaningful to divide by years too. Then more stellar younger teams would float to the top.

Teams ---- #
up to ---- Awards
70 ----- 264
120 ---- 176
180 ---- 170
50 ----- 158
240 ---- 158
80 ----- 150
350 ---- 142
30 ----- 132
360 ---- 130
40 ----- 126
60 ----- 121
20 ----- 120
110 ---- 120
130 ---- 120
370 ---- 117
230 ---- 105
90 ----- 101
150 ---- 101
470 ---- 101
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Re: The Top Ten

Not to plug our own ten, but the 340's are pretty good for only having 6 teams. Especially with Chairmans...

340- 5- RCA,2- Division champs, 2-regional champs, 2-regional finalist
341- Hall of Fame,4-RCA, 1-Divison Champ, 4- Regional Champs, CMP EI
342- 4-RCA, 1-Regional Champ, 3- Regional finalists
343- 2-RCA, 1- Division Champ, 4- Regional Champs
346- 1- Reginal Champ, 3- Regional Finalist
348- 1- Division Champ, 1 CHMP Finalist

... 1 Hall of Fame, 15 Regional Chairman's Awards, 5 Division Champs, 12 Regional wins.
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Not to plug our own ten,...
Don't worry, by Koko Ed's definition you aren't in that group...
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... 1 Hall of Fame, 15 Regional Chairman's Awards, 5 Division Champs, 12 Regional wins.
13 Regional Wins (we have 5 )
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how about 71-71?
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13 Regional Wins (we have 5 )
There's probably more mistakes, got the info off the FIRST website.
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Re: The Top Ten

Normalize the question, otherwise the results are skewed and we can spend days arguing. "Best in the History of FIRST" shouldn't pit 1994 teams against 2010 teams because the dynamics are completely different between then and now.

I'd suggest an era-based approach, for example a 'last 5 years' approach. Dynasty teams from the early 2000's that haven't produced much as far as mult-regional wins, Einstein or CMP awards in recent years shouldn't get love over teams that have for the 'last 5 years'.

Eras:
The old-schoolers ('92-'99) denoting the days before coopertition
The ramp-up ('00-'04) denoting the years before FRC really hit the bend in the exponential growth curve and also introduction of common COTS gearboxes
The newGens ('05-'08) based upon the old control system
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