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First team with swerve drive?

I have been wracking my brain trying to think of the first team in FRC with a swerve drive system, can you help me out?

Edit: why not also mecanum, "kiwi", or other omni-drive setups.
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Re: First team with swerve drive?

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I have been wracking my brain trying to think of the first team in FRC with a swerve drive system, can you help me out?
Earliest one I know of was Team 47's in 2000.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/12949

I believe someone had one in 1998 or 1999 but I can't remember who it was.
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Re: First team with swerve drive?

First mecanum drive in FRC I believe was in 2005, team 357 (showing my regional bias here...I want to say other teams had them in 2005 as well).
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Re: First team with swerve drive?

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First mecanum drive in FRC I believe was in 2005, team 357 (showing my regional bias here...I want to say other teams had them in 2005 as well).
190 also had one that year
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Re: First team with swerve drive?

I remember the big stir when Chief Delphi lifted up the hood on their robot that year. It was a coaxial drive as I remember. A lot of chain running around the top of the chassis.
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Re: First team with swerve drive?

Chief Delphi 1998 had a 2-wheel swerve. This was the first swerve drive...
Sometimes referred to as "delphi drive" in the old days.

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Re: First team with swerve drive?

Great info. Any idea when the first 4-wheel swerve was made?
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Re: First team with swerve drive?

Is there a shorter name, widely understood within the CD community, for a 4-wheel independent-steering and independent-driven drivetrain, with unlimited rotation of the wheels and sensors, and no gaps in the sensor feedback?

If not, could a longtimer here please invent one? It sure would be useful when discussing control methods.


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Is there a shorter name, widely understood within the CD community, for a 4-wheel independent-steering and independent-driven drivetrain, with unlimited rotation of the wheels and sensors, and no gaps in the sensor feedback?

If not, could a longtimer here please invent one? It sure would be useful when discussing control methods.

The Unicorn drive?
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The Unicorn drive?
Well, that's what it is then, christened with JVN gravitas.

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Re: First team with swerve drive?

The closest I know a team came to this task would be 469 in 2007.

4wd independently steered, independently driven (and 3 speed shifters).

However, it was motor in module so was not infinite rotation.

They did nail the control aspect well, which few teams with such drives do.
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Re: First team with swerve drive?

ChiefDelphi did 4wd swerve for the 1999 game, as well as the 2001 game.
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The closest I know a team came to this task would be 469 in 2007.

4wd independently steered, independently driven (and 3 speed shifters).

However, it was motor in module so was not infinite rotation.
If slip rings were permitted, could this design be modified to be a true Unicorn drive ?


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The Unicorn drive?
Could you provide some context for this name?
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