SAT

[davidthefat]

Okay, I'll take school more seriously; that means investing more time outside of class actually mastering the subject. I want to get a broader view of physics than what the current text book gives me. Which textbook do you recommend? I am obviously getting the used one.

http://www.amazon.com/College-Physic...5993681&sr=1-2
http://www.amazon.com/College-Physic...5993681&sr=1-5
http://www.amazon.com/College-Physic...5993681&sr=1-8

This one looks very interesting:
http://www.amazon.com/Feynman-Lectur...dp/0805390456/

If you are asking me why I am doing this. I realize how important physics is regarding my future career and college education. I want to fully master it before I graduate highschool

Also for calculus:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Cal...9780547167022/
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Cal...&USRI=calculus
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Cal...&USRI=calculus
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Cal...&USRI=calculus

I assume I need single variable before multi variable calculus

[tim_reiher]

Originally Posted by davidthefat

Okay, I'll take school more seriously; that means investing more time outside of class actually mastering the subject. I want to get a broader view of physics than what the current text book gives me. Which textbook do you recommend? I am obviously getting the used one.

http://www.amazon.com/College-Physic...5993681&sr=1-2
http://www.amazon.com/College-Physic...5993681&sr=1-5
http://www.amazon.com/College-Physic...5993681&sr=1-8

If you are asking me why I am doing this. I realize how important physics is regarding my future career and college education. I want to fully master it before I graduate highschool

Do you know why those books are called "College Physics"? Because that's likely precisely where you'll use them. I took physics b in high school, yet I'm taking introductory physics again in my freshman year of college. Most of it'll be rehash, albeit more difficult rehash, but that simply illustrates my point. You'll get this foundation through the school systems, part of it now and part of it in the future, and you'll have people much more versed in the subject material than you to guide you through it. They can even relate to you their experiential knowledge, which is likely at least somewhat substantial, in a way no textbook can.

If you're convinced that the system's inherently flawed though, and you can only get a proper foundation of physics by your own hand, there's nothing I can do to stop you from learning that way.

[davidthefat]

Originally Posted by tim_reiher

Do you know why those books are called "College Physics"? Because that's likely precisely where you'll use them. I took physics b in high school, yet I'm taking introductory physics again in my freshman year of college. Most of it'll be rehash, albeit more difficult rehash, but that simply illustrates my point. You'll get this foundation through the school systems, part of it now and part of it in the future, and you'll have people much more versed in the subject material than you to guide you through it. They can even relate to you their experiential knowledge, which is likely at least somewhat substantial, in a way no textbook can.

If you're convinced that the system's inherently flawed though, and you can only get a proper foundation of physics by your own hand, there's nothing I can do to stop you from learning that way.

I noticed that too, but look what I am learning from: http://www.amazon.com/College-Physic.../dp/0534997236

[davidthefat]

Originally Posted by tim_reiher

Do you know why those books are called "College Physics"? Because that's likely precisely where you'll use them. I took physics b in high school, yet I'm taking introductory physics again in my freshman year of college. Most of it'll be rehash, albeit more difficult rehash, but that simply illustrates my point. You'll get this foundation through the school systems, part of it now and part of it in the future, and you'll have people much more versed in the subject material than you to guide you through it. They can even relate to you their experiential knowledge, which is likely at least somewhat substantial, in a way no textbook can.

If you're convinced that the system's inherently flawed though, and you can only get a proper foundation of physics by your own hand, there's nothing I can do to stop you from learning that way.

I am currently learning from a college textbook. It usually only has one example per section, usually one for very simple concepts.

http://www.amazon.com/College-Physic.../dp/0534997236 This is the book we are learning from.

[tim_reiher]

Originally Posted by davidthefat

I am currently learning from a college textbook. It usually only has one example per section, usually one for very simple concepts.

http://www.amazon.com/College-Physic.../dp/0534997236 This is the book we are learning from.

Alright, that's fair enough; I must not have completely understood your post. But try not to let yourself get too involved in your "extracurricular" work before completing the work assigned from your school's book. While grades may seem asinine at times, and an unjust representation of your abilities at others, they aren't pointless. Not by a long shot. In my experience, they're more a representation of work ethic than simple test-taking ability. Colleges care about them quite a bit too, partly for that reason, and that was quite a selective list of colleges that you sent your SAT scores to.

If I seem like I'm to be a jerk here, I don't mean to be. But I've been through the applications process for colleges as selective as those, with mixed results. I just want to help you get the best chance of getting into what I know are great schools where you'd be hard-pressed not to succeed, if you have the drive to do so.

[Ether]

Originally Posted by davidthefat

I realize how important physics is regarding my future career and college education. I want to fully master it before I graduate highschool

You are not going to "fully master" physics before you graduate high school.

[davidthefat]

Originally Posted by Ether

You are not going to "fully master" physics before you graduate high school.

You know what I mean. No one, even Einstein fully mastered physics... I mean learn as much as I can to the fullest extent of current knowledge.

[Joe G.]

If there's one thing I've learned about learning, it's that striving to be done learning something by a set time is a bad goal.

The mysteries of the world around us are never-ending, infinite, always growing. Your education should reflect this, not be a means to an end.

You have your whole life to learn. Use every minute of it, now, and 50 years from now.

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by davidthefat

You know what I mean. No one, even Einstein fully mastered physics... I mean learn as much as I can to the fullest extent of current knowledge.

You're not going to learn the extent of the current human knowledge of physics before you leave high school.

[davidthefat]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

You're not going to learn the extent of the current human knowledge of physics before you leave high school.

I realized that as soon as I started reading the Feynman Lectures.

[Ether]

Originally Posted by davidthefat

I took my first official SAT today; I must say it seemed too easy...

...are the SATs usually this easy?

Quiet frankly, the PSAT seemed harder than this...

I am confident that my score for the SAT will be above 2200...

Sounds quixotic to say that, but it felt that easy...

I am so confident...

It's February 10. Your scores are in.

[davidthefat]

$@#$@#$@#$@#. $@#$@#$@#$@#.
CR: 570
M: 680
W:600
Essay: 8

Total: 1850... Let me go cry in a corner