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Re: Which region is the best?

Having competed both in the Michigan State Championship and on Einstein, the MSC is a much harder overall level of competition.
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Re: Which region is the best?

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Michigan is a region of it's own these days and no one else is allowed to come play. I don't think we should count them as part of a greater "midwest" anymore. If we count them as their own region, they win hands-down.

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I'm the biggest New England/Northeast thumper in the world, and even I find it hard to argue with this statement. Fact of the matter is, Michigan has produced more Einstein contenders than anyone else could really even dream of. I sometimes wonder if that will ever change until there is a similar district model in other regions. Even then, it would be awfully hard to surpass the state of never ending powerhouses.
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Re: Which region is the best?

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I'm the biggest New England/Northeast thumper in the world, and even I find it hard to argue with this statement. Fact of the matter is, Michigan has produced more Einstein contenders than anyone else could really even dream of. I sometimes wonder if that will ever change until there is a similar district model in other regions. Even then, it would be awfully hard to surpass the state of never ending powerhouses.
I think the next best place for a district model is New England.
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Re: Which region is the best?

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I think the next best place for a district model is New England.
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On topic, what about California? There are a lot of great teams out there too. I agree that Michigan has produced a lot of awesome teams, and of course I want to support my own region (the Northeast), but just some food for thought.
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Re: Which region is the best?

Michigan has the most powerful teams.
Of all the regions I go to the Florida teams are the nicest.
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Re: Which region is the best?

Rather than speculate, it would be an interesting exercise in statistics to see per capita which region is the 'best'.

An area with 150 teams that has 15 'great' teams is not as powerful as an area with 50 teams and 7 'great' teams. It may be possible that North Dakota is a greater powerhouse than MI (assuming ND has at least one team )

We'd need a definition of "best" though. Teams on Einstein I suppose. or?

Anyone up for that analysis?
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Re: Which region is the best?

Michigan is the most challenging and competitive region, hands down. There is a District/State Championship system for a reason.
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Re: Which region is the best?

Should the parameters be limited to Einstein and Chairman's Winners? Should the regions be classified differently? Some states or pairs of states have more teams than entire regions.

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Re: Which region is the best?

I've competed on 5 different teams, in 3 different regions (Michigan/Midwest, New England, Texas), and I have to say, Michigan is the best, hands-down. Nowhere else has such a high concentration of elite-level powerhouse teams, and nowhere else is the level of competition as high across the board.

I will give New England some credit for having a lot of solid veteran teams, and a high overall level of play. There are also a lot of great powerhouse teams in the "greater Midwest" outside of Michigan. Texas has a couple of great veteran teams, too. But if I had to pick one area as "the best", it's definitely Michigan.
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Re: Which region is the best?

Duke,

First of all, you are welcome. Secondly, this could be another interesting thread if contributors to the thread use wisdom and integrity when posting. It won't do any justice to the topic to have posts filled with all sorts of empty bragging and generalizations.

Also, the thread you linked to that inspired this thread has come about because there are such dramatic differences in regions and the amount of experience, support, and understanding within and about those regions. That thread is to bring attention to those differences and shed light on some of the reasons. It is also going to be used to put together some information that I want to use for different purposes in identifying the weaknesses and what we can do to strengthen them in order to build sustainable programs in our regions. This would allow for the competitive experience to become a consistent standard of excellence. The key word in this whole initiative is: excellence. Spend 5 minutes listening to Andy Baker and you will hear that word 3 times. The trick is, you have to listen and then comprehend and then act, if you care about the standard of excellence. I'm acting.

Good luck with figuring out the best region, Duke. I look forward to reading the replies.

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Re: Which region is the best?

Northeast: It's where it all started, it's where you have the big Hall-of Famers, the most stacked regionals, and the best offseason events and outreach. NE all the way.
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Re: Which region is the best?

Midwest.

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