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Unread 08-03-2011, 00:26
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Re: Which teams are winning?

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Are we just going to list every team that won an event this week?
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Unread 08-03-2011, 00:50
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Re: Which teams are winning?

Is there any correlation between drive type and success?
- are good mechanums scoring like crazy and repositioning tubes as expected?
- are drop centers having any trouble with fine positioning in the scoring lanes?

Is there any correlation between arm types and success?
- I saw the Alamo final on 16's website, they have a telescoping tower, their partner had a four-bar articulating arm. Both seemed to score at will.
- 33 has a telescoping tower

I am a little surprised that there is not more hoarding of thrown game pieces in the matches I have seen. People seem to be playing the game straight up.

Anyone who thought the game was going to be played end-to-end with few pieces on the ground sure had it wrong.
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Re: Which teams are winning?

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Is there any correlation between drive type and success?
- are good mechanums scoring like crazy and repositioning tubes as expected?
- are drop centers having any trouble with fine positioning in the scoring lanes?

Is there any correlation between arm types and success?
- I saw the Alamo final on 16's website, they have a telescoping tower, their partner had a four-bar articulating arm. Both seemed to score at will.
- 33 has a telescoping tower

I am a little surprised that there is not more hoarding of thrown game pieces in the matches I have seen. People seem to be playing the game straight up.

Anyone who thought the game was going to be played end-to-end with few pieces on the ground sure had it wrong.
Looking at just Traverse (and a few other key robots), drivetrains can be of use to a robot, but they certainly don't make or break one. Most of the top robots at TC all had a 6wd with either drop center, or omni wheels. The only time mech drive systems were useful were in positioning for the minibot deployment.

Of course, a good crab or swerve drive did help many teams do very well (as always).

For arms, it seems like a telescoping tower is fast, but certainly not the only winning robot out there. I observed many teams with either a single or double jointed arm do really well. In fact, besides 1918, the best scorers at TC were single jointed arms. (2000 comes to mind)
It all comes down to speed of hanging, and not the arm type.

As for hoarding of game pieces, we found that during eliminations, in order to keep our opponents from scoring it was a good idea to have a robot who would herd tubes towards our side of the field. If a robot can do this effectively, the top scores for that alliance will certainly be higher.
Floor loading is also an extremely valuable feature.
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Unread 11-03-2011, 19:58
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Very high placed and well accomplished teams at kettering.

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Which teams are strong/winning on week 1?
148 scored as many points in two robo-minutes as the bottom 75% of Alamo did in 1.5 robo-hours. I know they aren't the type to brag... but if that isn't impressive I don't know what is. 217, 2056, and 33 had similarly ridiculous (50+) OPRs. NJ's 1676, 2016 and 1218 were huddled about 45, and 1519 just broke 40.

(By OPR it took the bottom 46 robots one match to score as many points as 148.)

The mathematical definition of OPR can be found here, in layman's terms it attempts to solve for the number of points scored by each robot during a match by solving a system of equations of which teams played with which and how many points got scored. It is a rough approximation of how many points a robot scored during its average qualifying match.
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Re: Which teams are winning?

Competing at Finger Lakes I can tell you that 2056 is the BEAST, not us. Their auton was more consistent than ours as it hit every time (except one match when they turned it off due to a blown Jag in their roller claw) and their mini-bot deployment was more consistent than ours.

We both had a pretty easy schedule, but the only reason our OPR is higher is due to the fact that we had 2 matches with ridiculously good alliances. Granted, one of them was with 2056 but the other was with 1126 and 340.

2056 is extremely top tier this year and their robot is a work of art.

Oh, and 1126 and 340 are the real deal this year.
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Re: Which teams are winning?

The teams that finished the robot early and had time for driver practice and autonomous modes.
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The teams that finished the robot early and had time for driver practice and autonomous modes.
I think this is about as close to a universal truth as you will find in FRC. The teams that have the most time to practice and program will always be the ones coming out the gate the strongest.
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Re: Which teams are winning?

From NJ, 2016 was the beast and the team to beat. They had some bad luck that would push down their OPR. We had a good bot with great drivers. They had a great bot with good & improving drivers. Watch out for them moving forward.
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Re: Which teams are winning?

From FLR, our top teams were: 2056, 217, 1126, 340, 191 & 229.
I believe they were all Floor Collectors that could reach the top, and had rather consistent auto modes, the first four had very good minibots(& deployers) as well.
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Re: Which teams are winning?

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Competing at Finger Lakes I can tell you that 2056 is the BEAST, not us. Their auton was more consistent than ours as it hit every time (except one match when they turned it off due to a blown Jag in their roller claw) and their mini-bot deployment was more consistent than ours.

We both had a pretty easy schedule, but the only reason our OPR is higher is due to the fact that we had 2 matches with ridiculously good alliances. Granted, one of them was with 2056 but the other was with 1126 and 340.

2056 is extremely top tier this year and their robot is a work of art.

Oh, and 1126 and 340 are the real deal this year.
Beat me to it. 1126 and 340 put up some of the best competition to a ridiculously good alliance (2056 and 217) than I have seen in a long while. Plus 340 got chairmans, so they can come to champs.
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