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Best omnidirectional drive trains in FIRST history

I've been researching some omnidirectional drive trains, on many teams, but as far as far as pictures go, you can only tell so much.

So, Chief Delphi, what robots in FIRST history do you think have had the best omnidirectional drive? "Best", meaning most maneuverable, fastest, most torque, etc.

Thanks!

edit: Sorry I wasn't so clear. I was hoping for examples of robots from the past/present/future with the best omnidirectional drives fitting the description above. Videos and pics are appreciated.

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Re: Best omnidirectional drive trains in FIRST history

Swerve. Hands down.
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Re: Best omnidirectional drive trains in FIRST history

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Swerve. Hands down.
[Citation Needed] Please explain why this system is best in your mind.
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[Citation Needed] Please explain why this system is best in your mind.
Bomb Squad's (16) swerve drive. It continually amazes me year after year. It is fast, maneuverable, and makes any defense look silly. Our team is even considering prototyping a swerve drive after seeing them at IRI.
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Bomb Squad's (16) swerve drive. It continually amazes me year after year. It is fast, maneuverable, and makes any defense look silly. Our team is even considering prototyping a swerve drive after seeing them at IRI.
Any specific year? Can you provide a video? We're also thinking of implementing a swerve drive in the near future.
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Any specific year? Can you provide a video? We're also thinking of implementing a swerve drive in the near future.
I'd also love to see a year and video please.

I've always thought 71 in 2006 was great with their system. 2008 comes close too.
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Re: Best omnidirectional drive trains in FIRST history

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0W83...feature=relmfu
Year after year their 3-wheel swerve amazes me, but I have to say that 2011 was one of the most impressive.

As for 2008, I love 148 and 118's drives. And of course 1114, for just being amazingly fast, although not omnidirectional.
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Re: Best omnidirectional drive trains in FIRST history

I guess for a lot of you, robots from 2004 are old. However I thought Team 180, SPAM's omnidirectional chassis and Team 1083, Emoticon's omnidirectional chassis were pretty cool.

As far as swerve there are way too many teams that have mastered it over the years. It's very hard to name just one.
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I guess for a lot of you, robots from 2004 are old. However I thought Team 180, SPAM's omnidirectional chassis
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Re: Best omnidirectional drive trains in FIRST history

To my knowledge, the only drive systems that have won Einstein that weren't tank drive were:

-67 in 2005 (swerve of unknown particulars)
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If someone remembers one I've missed, I'm all ears.
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And 2009.
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Re: Best omnidirectional drive trains in FIRST history

2009-Beachbots' sorta crab system is one of my favorites.
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Year after year their 3-wheel swerve amazes me, but I have to say that 2011 was one of the most impressive.

As for 2008, I love 148 and 118's drives. And of course 1114, for just being amazingly fast, although not omnidirectional.
Tumbleweed (148's 2008 robot)

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My personal favorite is 1625's 2010 6-wheel swerve. It offers a lot of versatility in terms of being able to function as a 6-wheel tank drive, and as a traditional swerve drive. They were the captains of the Galileo-winning alliance, so, interpret results as you will.

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