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Re: [BB] The wooden beams have started creaking

Has no one seen the "Tidal Wave" in the third line? There's a stormy undercurrent in these posts... Perhaps one of the mysterious pallets contains large fans that blow around lightweight (but hopefully not very delicate) game pieces. Or it's a water game!
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By counting the number of events in a given week.
Keep in mind that MAR and FiM build their own fields; this may not be accounted for in the quantities listed by Bill.
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Keep in mind that MAR and FiM build their own fields; this may not be accounted for in the quantities listed by Bill.
I thought that too, but then I looked at the list of events. I don't see enough simultaneous "conventional" regionals. The district competitions have to be included.
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I thought that too, but then I looked at the list of events. I don't see enough simultaneous "conventional" regionals. The district competitions have to be included.
Right, but it still doesn't answer the question as to whether the quantities of materials listed by Bill should be divided by 19, by 15, or something else.
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Right, but it still doesn't answer the question as to whether the quantities of materials listed by Bill should be divided by 19, by 15, or something else.
Divide by 42... or 0... Ah crap that didn't help any, we still have too many choices.

Oh well, guess I'll know in January.
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Re: [BB] The wooden beams have started creaking

Speaking of Manual sections, Section 4.2.2 covers robot carts. Please be sure to clearly label your robot cart with your team number. There is no defined way to do this, we just want to make sure field personnel can identify what cart belongs to which team so we can keep things flowing smoothly on the field.

This above statement seems like the biggest hint in the blog. Means that the field may be dangerous for student to enter/be part of and field crew will the the ones having to return robots. I am thinking some kind of elevated field elements.
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Speaking of Manual sections, Section 4.2.2 covers robot carts. Please be sure to clearly label your robot cart with your team number. There is no defined way to do this, we just want to make sure field personnel can identify what cart belongs to which team so we can keep things flowing smoothly on the field.

This above statement seems like the biggest hint in the blog. Means that the field may be dangerous for student to enter/be part of and field crew will the the ones having to return robots. I am thinking some kind of elevated field elements.
Well for field reset in the past we have had the problem that people off load their robot to the field and then leave their cart in the middle of the queing zone. Most carts do not have any team markings so the volunteers are left to ask around to find out whose cart it is. That or we move it ourselves (often, it seems, to an area that the team is unhappy about even though it was them who didnt move their car tin the first place..but enough rant) I wouldn't be surprised if a volunteer suggested this rule as common practice and FIRST decided to adopt it.
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Well for field reset in the past we have had the problem that people off load their robot to the field and then leave their cart in the middle of the queing zone. Most carts do not have any team markings so the volunteers are left to ask around to find out whose cart it is. That or we move it ourselves (often, it seems, to an area that the team is unhappy about even though it was them who didnt move their car tin the first place..but enough rant) I wouldn't be surprised if a volunteer suggested this rule as common practice and FIRST decided to adopt it.
One time I kicked a left-behind cart under the drape covering the judges table. The team didn't know where their cart went.
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Re: [BB] The wooden beams have started creaking

The steel and Lexan got me thinking... which may be a bad thing... Something just didn't quite sit right with me about this hint and the heavy field. There is not a lot of space on the field for a large field element the largest we have had since 3 v 3 was probably the Rack. If we assume as it seems to be described that this is significantly heavier than the rack my new conclusion is that the large field element is not actually on the field. Now before you call me crazy here me out. What if there is a scaffolding structure above the driver station with stairs leading up to it from behind. Perhaps this is the isolation booth for the Kinect perhaps a way to spread out the human players. Of course their would be safety railings and what not perhaps it even over hangs or crosses a portion of the field... thoughts?
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I thought that too, but then I looked at the list of events. I don't see enough simultaneous "conventional" regionals. The district competitions have to be included.
The Israel and Hawaii fields do not also travel to mainland events. Last year, FIRST kept one field in a warehouse in the middle of the country as a contingency. Also, the Einstein field is not used previously. So, there's 4 fields needed in addition to the most simultaneous regionals.

On the other hand, the 17 fields that they had last year included the two FIM fields.

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Re: [BB] The wooden beams have started creaking

I think it is getting safe to say it isn't a water game. He mentions carpet tape.
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I think it is getting safe to say it isn't a water game. He mentions carpet tape.
I don't know about that...

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Is polycarbonate always used on the fields (if so, for what?)?
To keep the water in the tanks

Hint: Tidal Wave .....

Hint: Keep things Flowing...

Maybe use the Kinect to detect the human players "swimming"...

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four 1,000lb pallets of game specific steel elements, a pallet of aluminum, three 1,500lb pallets of a game specific item plus a fourth 1,000lb pallet of a different game specific item
Hmm, that's a ratio of 4lb game specific steel elements : 4.5lb game item one : 1lb game item two.

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Does that mean that the amount of the first game item is going to weigh more than the steel elements? 0.o
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We can assume that since there is Carpet tape, then regolith will probably not be part of this year's field.
If memory serves me correctly, the field was carpeted then regolith was placed over it. That's why the regolith was 'squishy' when walked on.

Come on GDC, bring back regolith!
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