Hoops

[Breakaway3937]

I purchased ours from Target.com for $34.99. You can find the link here.

[sanddrag]

Is the Spalding not just functionally equivalent, but identical to the Huffy?

[Cory]

Originally Posted by sanddrag

Is the Spalding not just functionally equivalent, but identical to the Huffy?

without having compared two side by side I would hesitate to say yes, but based off of the dimensions given by FIRST it certainly is.

[martin417]

The "breakaway" feature (not related to the 20010 game of the same name) WILL make an impact on game play. They stated that the spring was replaced with a softer one. The rim will deflect when struck by a ball, thereby absorbing some energy. This will affect the way the balls bounce off the rim. Your practice hoop should be mounted the same way for consistency.

[Alan Anderson]

Originally Posted by lbarger

The question I have is whether or not the break away feature is needed. Robot extensions are limited to 14", robots can not climb on the 'fenders' and the rims are over the finders. Can an appendage contact the rims? Would game play (ball reaction) be very different if you used a fixed solid rim?

The rules effectively prohibit robots from touching the rims, but there's nothing physically prohibiting a robot from breaking the rules. Imagine a 150-pound robot tipping over onto the end of one of the hoops.

[waialua359]

well we finally ordered 3 of them.
After searching site after site, they were either sold out or an outrageous price with shipping.
It was a whopping $243.xx!

[adengler]

Originally Posted by waialua359

well we finally ordered 3 of them.
After searching site after site, they were either sold out or an outrageous price with shipping.
It was a whopping $243.xx!

Same for us in Honolulu.... Shipping was $37.00 for each rim!

[Aren Siekmeier]

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson

The rules effectively prohibit robots from touching the rims, but there's nothing physically prohibiting a robot from breaking the rules. Imagine a 150-pound robot tipping over onto the end of one of the hoops.

What rule is this? The fender is there to protect the rims, but there is no rule barring contact with the fender, or even climbing on top of it. Granted, it would be difficult to do, given its height, and probably not worthwhile.

[PVCMike]

Can anyone share how many springs are in each hoop? Every hoop I can remember playing on has had 2 but I wanted to make sure before I ordered springs.

Edit: Never mind. Found it in the drawings. Only one spring per hoop.

[LinuxArchitect]

Originally Posted by compwiztobe

What rule is this? The fender is there to protect the rims, but there is no rule barring contact with the fender, or even climbing on top of it. Granted, it would be difficult to do, given its height, and probably not worthwhile.

G10 as modified by team update on 1/10.

Robots may not push or react against the top of the Fender.

[IndySam]

Originally Posted by lbarger

It's not a simple plastic hoop. What FIRST has specified is a steel regulation basket ball rim. That said, you should find it cheaper at Amazon, ~$31.

The question I have is whether or not the break away feature is needed. Robot extensions are limited to 14", robots can not climb on the 'fenders' and the rims are over the finders. Can an appendage contact the rims? Would game play (ball reaction) be very different if you used a fixed solid rim?

The breakaway feature is to make it easier for the reset crew to retrieve stuck balls.

[silverD]

Walmart has them back in stock. I ordered 4 and will be shipped to store. They are quoting arrival after the 20th.

[tlivingd]

Thanks for the Walmart tip! Ordered 3 today. Would be nice if at least one was in the KOP.

Edit. Most home use nets are very cheap. I have a hunch that the nets provided are closer to an NBA model where it's a heavier nylon cord. Unfortunately our midwest kickoff was the team field, Not the FIRST field.

[tlivingd]

Sorry to spam this thread.
for those who haven't seen the game specific drawings, the notes below are on drawing GE-12013.

"Notes:
1. Remove stock net. It will not be used for competitions. It if fine for practice, but the
length may not be compatible for the rest of the field components.
2. Remove stock spring from the backboard and replace with the specified spring from
McMaster. Once again, the stock spring is probably good enough for practice, but the
McMaster spring has more give to it. "

[RoboCat2005]

As for practice reason, we talked to our schools basketball coach and got some old rims that were laying around. Although not the "actual" rim, they are regulation and meet the same dimensions so for practice reasons will work. Biggest benefit, did not cost us a thing.