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IRI - 2015 Rule Modification Ideas?

As the Regional and District competitions come to a close, we turn our thoughts to the 2015 IRI. We always have the benefit of a season of play, so we can make small changes to the rules to enhance the game (if / when we need to).

We are open to suggestions - but remember the goal is not to create a new game, or negate the hard work done by teams to design and build robots and strategies to play Recycle Rush.
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Re: IRI - 2015 Rule Modification Ideas?

No noodle throwing till the final 30 seconds
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Re: IRI - 2015 Rule Modification Ideas?

Remove the chute door, and make the upside down totes in the landfill right side up.
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Remove the chute door....
The Q&A would need updated...

Chute door?
No chute door.
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No noodle throwing till the final 30 seconds
No noodle throwing.
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Re: IRI - 2015 Rule Modification Ideas?

Remove the totes from the bump, and fill it with RC's. Keep the noodle throwing, IMO. Agree with others about flipping the upside down totes.
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Re: IRI - 2015 Rule Modification Ideas?

  • Allow robots to manipulate noodles, and place noodles on the other side of the bridge
  • Remove the upside down totes
  • Allow 4 Robots Per Alliance
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Re: IRI - 2015 Rule Modification Ideas?

For Chezy Champs, we have discussed only scoring noodles that are inside of cans. No processed or unprocessed noodle points.
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For Chezy Champs, we have discussed only scoring noodles that are inside of cans. No processed or unprocessed noodle points.
Changes like this are good because it does not require extra work if an event is using the FMS to run the event.

Would you allow the noodles to still be thrown or would this be a penalty? At a higher level I can imagine the incentive to throw noodles isn't coming from the points, but the disruption to the other alliance.
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Changes like this are good because it does not require extra work if an event is using the FMS to run the event.

Would you allow the noodles to still be thrown or would this be a penalty? At a higher level I can imagine the incentive to throw noodles isn't coming from the points, but the disruption to the other alliance.
Red/Blue colored alliance noodles on the opposite side of the field should count as a penalty. Otherwise I'm not sure how to make the distinction between throwing and placing over the wall without a ref watching.
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Re: IRI - 2015 Rule Modification Ideas?

What if playoff teams were ranked by max score at each level rather than average score? Then an alliance that puts up a 250 and an unlucky 150 would move on before another that puts up two 170s, but is capped at that score.
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Re: IRI - 2015 Rule Modification Ideas?

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These are my suggestions to make this a better game overall:

1. Disallow Noodle Throwing.
2. Place 2 additional RCs on each side of the field, at the end of each scoring platform.
3. Eliminate the Co-op feature.
4. Retain the Autonomous bonuses, but allow yellow totes to be used as regular totes in stacks.
5. change orientation of inverted totes in landfill back to right side up.
6. change tote count for human players to at least 40 per alliance.
7. Eliminate some of the totes on center step and place 2 additional RCs on step.

These changes would remove nearly all of the capacity, debris, distraction, and chokehold constraints currently in the game, and this would change Recycle Rush into a more pure high level execution game. The alliance who can build the most and tallest stacks would win. It would be awesome to see how far we could go if the limitations were removed.

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For Chezy Champs, we have discussed only scoring noodles that are inside of cans. No processed or unprocessed noodle points.
I like this phrasing to ban or devalue noodle throwing. This would at least allow the toss onto RCs. There would still need to be a penalty to prevent noddles getting across the field.


Lastly, it would be nice to create more space for all 3 robots to play. Maybe the scoring platform near the land fill can be split into 2 smaller platforms on either side of the field?
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Two people in the Human player zone
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I worry about changes like this because it increases the value of HP loading but leaves the landfill value the same.
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Re: IRI - 2015 Rule Modification Ideas?

i think this is impossible but allow for defence
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